Re: Oracle Internet/Intranet Licencing - Overflow from a DBI-users thread

True, the Standard is $15 but the Enterprise is $100. but point well taken

Paddy

Frank van Bortel wrote:

> Are you sure about $100 US per Intel Power Unit?
> Seems high, compared to the $15 US over here
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
> Frank
> "Patrick Mulvany" <patrick.mulvany_at_torrington.net> wrote in message
> news:38DB61EB.C25C7E11_at_torrington.net...
> > Sorry to relocate a thread but...
> >
> > This is a long running argument on the DBI-Users mailing list and I
> > would like some input from this news group as to their opinions on
> > Oracle licencing when connected to the internet (or internets with known
> > numbers of users) via a web server with known limits and the most
> > economical way of achieving this.
> >
> > There is some debate as the the exact limitations of the Oracle Licences
> > and their pricing policy.
> >
> > Patrick Mulvany
> >
> > Orlando Andico wrote:
> >
> > > Argh. That's expensive. We got our Oracle license before the new
> > > licensing
> > > scheme came into effect. We got 10 concurrent devices which was <
> > > $10000.
> > > The web server counts as one concurrent device.. :]
> > >
> > > I got some rumor over at the linux-informix_at_iiug.org mailing list to
> > > the
> > > effect that Informix Foundation 2K is $2000 a year on Linux
> > > single-CPU.
> > >
> > > Still, with the load the original poster was talking about, even the
> > > old
> > > Sybase 11.0.3.3 on Linux (free) could do that..
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Patrick Mulvany wrote:
> >
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> > > ***
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> > >
> > > Are but you are forgetting the Oracle Licence for internet connection.
> > >
> > > Perperutal internet licence for Oracle is based on CPU MHz therefor
> > > for the 2450
> > > (600P3x2) machine a perpertual licence will cost :- $100 x 600 x 2 =
> > > $120,000
> > >
> > > Even if you take to 2 year licence option with is 35% of the
> > > perpertual licence this
> > > is still $42,000.
> > >
> > > It is also recommended that you have something like silver support of
> > > Oracle which is
> > > 22% of the perpetual licence which is $26,400.
> > >
> > > The total cost of the machine is insignificant in comparison to the
> > > $146,400 for the
> > > Oracle licence.
> > >
> > > And don't even think what happens when you get to Quad or Octal
> > > machines <looks over
> > > at a 6350 and groans>.
> > >
> > > Even with the lower spec 450P3 x 2 the cost could easily be $109,800
> > > in Oracle
> > > licences.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Patrick Mulvany
> > >
> > > Jeff Warner wrote:
> > >
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> > > >
> > > > I have to agree with Mark. You could easily handle this
> > > load on a Dell
> > > > 2300 or 2450 running Oracle/Linux. A decent load on a 2450
> > > (600P3x2, 1GB
> > > > RAM, RAID1 array) would cost you under $8000 and would sleep on this
> > > load.
> > > > We have a 2300 (450P3x2, 1GB RAM, RAID5 array) running 8i (nearly
> > > out of the
> > > > box and in archive mode!) and we can generate over a million
> > > database driven
> > > > e-mails per hour from a single server and the database server is
> > > pulling a
> > > > 1.5 load.
> > > > If your transactions are all or mostly read only, you are
> > > talking a light
> > > > load. Getcha a couple of servers, one for apache, one for database
> > > and
> > > > another for a stand-by and you'll be ready for bear.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dbi-users-bounce_at_isc.org [mailto:dbi-users-bounce_at_isc.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of Mark Dedlow
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 8:28 PM
> > > > To: jmaes_at_sportingnews.com
> > > > Cc: DBI user mailing list
> > > > Subject: Re: Great Database Minds
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > > Hey all, I am hoping that some of you great database minds out
> > > there
> > > > > will be able to lend me a hand on this one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which of the following would be better suited for a simple
> > > database (1
> > > > > table) with around a 1/2 to 1 million rows. That would receive 100
> > > to
> > > > > 500 transactions per a minute.
> > > > >
> > > > > the two choices here are
> > > > >
> > > > > Oracle 8 on a Sun box ($100,000 - $150,000)
> > > > > or
> > > > > Informix 9.2 on a Linux/Intel ($50,000)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > All of the load on the database will come from simple web queries,
> > > and
> > > > > updates.
> > > >
> > > > I guess by "better suited", you mean which would handle the load
> > > > better. I think both configurations are overkill for the
> > > > load you describe. I can't speak to Informix, but Oracle could
> > > > handle that load on a machine 1/10 that cost. 500 transactions
> > > > per minute == 8.3/sec. I've clocked hundreds of "simple"
> > > > transactions per sec on my desktop sparcstation (~3,000).
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > >
> >
Received on Fri Mar 24 2000 - 11:34:04 CST