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Re: Oracle Internet/Intranet Licencing - Overflow from a DBI-users thread

From: Frank van Bortel <f.van.bortel_at_vnl.nl>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:41:47 -0800
Message-ID: <8bg29e$9ud$1@porthos.nl.uu.net>


Are you sure about $100 US per Intel Power Unit? Seems high, compared to the $15 US over here

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Kind Regards,
Frank
"Patrick Mulvany" <patrick.mulvany_at_torrington.net> wrote in message news:38DB61EB.C25C7E11_at_torrington.net...
> Sorry to relocate a thread but...
>
> This is a long running argument on the DBI-Users mailing list and I
> would like some input from this news group as to their opinions on
> Oracle licencing when connected to the internet (or internets with known
> numbers of users) via a web server with known limits and the most
> economical way of achieving this.
>
> There is some debate as the the exact limitations of the Oracle Licences
> and their pricing policy.
>
> Patrick Mulvany
>
> Orlando Andico wrote:
>
> > Argh. That's expensive. We got our Oracle license before the new
> > licensing
> > scheme came into effect. We got 10 concurrent devices which was <
> > $10000.
> > The web server counts as one concurrent device.. :]
> >
> > I got some rumor over at the linux-informix_at_iiug.org mailing list to
> > the
> > effect that Informix Foundation 2K is $2000 a year on Linux
> > single-CPU.
> >
> > Still, with the load the original poster was talking about, even the
> > old
> > Sybase 11.0.3.3 on Linux (free) could do that..
> >
> >
>
> Patrick Mulvany wrote:
>
> > *** From dbi-users - To unsubscribe, see the end of this message.
> > ***
> > *** DBI Home Page - http://www.symbolstone.org/technology/perl/DBI/
> > ***
> >
> > Are but you are forgetting the Oracle Licence for internet connection.
> >
> > Perperutal internet licence for Oracle is based on CPU MHz therefor
> > for the 2450
> > (600P3x2) machine a perpertual licence will cost :- $100 x 600 x 2 =
> > $120,000
> >
> > Even if you take to 2 year licence option with is 35% of the
> > perpertual licence this
> > is still $42,000.
> >
> > It is also recommended that you have something like silver support of
> > Oracle which is
> > 22% of the perpetual licence which is $26,400.
> >
> > The total cost of the machine is insignificant in comparison to the
> > $146,400 for the
> > Oracle licence.
> >
> > And don't even think what happens when you get to Quad or Octal
> > machines <looks over
> > at a 6350 and groans>.
> >
> > Even with the lower spec 450P3 x 2 the cost could easily be $109,800
> > in Oracle
> > licences.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Patrick Mulvany
> >
> > Jeff Warner wrote:
> >
> > > *** From dbi-users - To unsubscribe, see the end of this
> > message. ***
> > > *** DBI Home Page -
> > http://www.symbolstone.org/technology/perl/DBI/ ***
> > >
> > > I have to agree with Mark. You could easily handle this
> > load on a Dell
> > > 2300 or 2450 running Oracle/Linux. A decent load on a 2450
> > (600P3x2, 1GB
> > > RAM, RAID1 array) would cost you under $8000 and would sleep on this
> > load.
> > > We have a 2300 (450P3x2, 1GB RAM, RAID5 array) running 8i (nearly
> > out of the
> > > box and in archive mode!) and we can generate over a million
> > database driven
> > > e-mails per hour from a single server and the database server is
> > pulling a
> > > 1.5 load.
> > > If your transactions are all or mostly read only, you are
> > talking a light
> > > load. Getcha a couple of servers, one for apache, one for database
> > and
> > > another for a stand-by and you'll be ready for bear.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dbi-users-bounce_at_isc.org [mailto:dbi-users-bounce_at_isc.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Mark Dedlow
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 8:28 PM
> > > To: jmaes_at_sportingnews.com
> > > Cc: DBI user mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: Great Database Minds
> > >
> > > *** From dbi-users - To unsubscribe, see the end of this
> > message. ***
> > > *** DBI Home Page -
> > http://www.symbolstone.org/technology/perl/DBI/ ***
> > >
> > > > Hey all, I am hoping that some of you great database minds out
> > there
> > > > will be able to lend me a hand on this one.
> > > >
> > > > Which of the following would be better suited for a simple
> > database (1
> > > > table) with around a 1/2 to 1 million rows. That would receive 100
> > to
> > > > 500 transactions per a minute.
> > > >
> > > > the two choices here are
> > > >
> > > > Oracle 8 on a Sun box ($100,000 - $150,000)
> > > > or
> > > > Informix 9.2 on a Linux/Intel ($50,000)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All of the load on the database will come from simple web queries,
> > and
> > > > updates.
> > >
> > > I guess by "better suited", you mean which would handle the load
> > > better. I think both configurations are overkill for the
> > > load you describe. I can't speak to Informix, but Oracle could
> > > handle that load on a machine 1/10 that cost. 500 transactions
> > > per minute == 8.3/sec. I've clocked hundreds of "simple"
> > > transactions per sec on my desktop sparcstation (~3,000).
> > >
> > > Mark
> >
>
Received on Fri Mar 24 2000 - 18:41:47 CST

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