Re: good for the garden

Good points..

I vented too much and failed to 'walk a mile in his shoes' before replying...

[ Insert abject public apology here ]

The learning curve for Oracle ( and , in the past, for trying to figure out their manuals ) is steeper than it should be, but, as you mentioned, it is usually worth the effort ( and the hair-pulling, threats, suicidal thoughts, etc) once its up and running

Thanks for the reality check...

John Greco

"DET" <NotValidBecauseOfSpammers_at_ipipeline.net> wrote:

>
>TurkBear wrote in message <3899ab7b.460542_at_204.181.81.99>...
>>
>>There are some good points here, but many seem to reflect an lack of
>attention
>>to docs...
>>
>
>
>Couple of comments:
>
>First, allow for the fact that the other guy just went through a frustrating
>experience and is probably still vibrating like an irate chihuahua.
>
>Second, it's easy to tell someone to "RTFM", but how reading should be
>required? I've been through the grinder a number of times with Oracle
>installations, and IMO you practically have to read the entire 18 inches or
>so of docs to really understand what's going on. And even then, the
>installers have more bugs than a porch light (It is my personal belief that
>Oracle does this on purpose to force purchase of the maintenance agt). In
>fact, once I get a particular install working for a given Oracle/Unix
>version set, I do a tape of the /oracle directory and use that for installs
>in the future. It's *way* easier than using Oracle's installer. In contrast,
>we once installed SQL Server just to see what it looked like. Took about 1/2
>hour total, and was completely brainless, including the database creation.
>So if 3 RDBMS's are dead easy, and the fourth is killer difficult, I don't
>think it's realistic to blame the user for having problems with the fourth.
>
>Having said that, once Oracle is up and running it has no equal in the
>speed, power, and stability department. But getting there is 99% of the
>battle.
>
>

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