Re: Getting that first job

Andrew,
As a junior developer in Oracle, I have another route you might think of taking which is a test/QA position which is how I did it. That way, I learned the product and business rules, and was able to network within my company to the appropriate people who could get me into development. Luckily, my company believes in taking smart people with initiative and giving them training. I did have a c.s. degree which was a requirement but hadn't done anything with databases. So within 6 months of taking the test position, I was moved into development, receiving my on the job training in Forms and Reports. Money in test is not very good generally, but within a year I was making over 40% more so it's worth it in the end. Now I've got my developer's experience of almost 2 years which is the point at which you can start thinking about moving up the ladder into contracting, more money, etc.

Linda

cathexis_at_erols.com wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:08:54 GMT, "Jerry Gitomer" <jgitomer_at_ictgroup.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Since you are posting from erols.com I presume you are located in the
> >Northeastern United States. If I were you I would start contacting the
> >Human Resources departments in the larger organizations in your area. Also
> >contact every firm in the yellow pages that claims to provide contract
> >programming and computer consulting services. What you are looking for is
> >an entry level Developer's job.
> >
> > When you get one it won't pay too well, but the important thing is get a
> >year or two of paid experience so that you can either get a very handsome
> >increase or move on to greener pastures.
> >
> > In my opinion you should hold out for a developer's job and not try to
> >go the Help Desk route.
> >
> > regards
> >
> >Jerry Gitomer
>
> Jerry,
>
> Thanks for your advice. I appreciate it- and it sits well with my heart.
>
> Be Seeing You,
> Andrew
> >
> >cathexis_at_erols.com wrote in message <36d213ea.9189694_at_news.erols.com>...
> >>Dear Ng,
> >>
> >> Well, now that I've finished some classes in Oracle( 7.3, Dev. 2000 Forms
> >4.5 and Reports
> >>2.5) the question is what sort of jobs should I hope, or expect, to get?
> >> There seem to be 3 levels of jobs out there: Help desk, Developers and
> >DBA. Reality tells me
> >>not to look for the DBA jobs. If know anything, I know what I don't know
> >and I believe DBA requires
> >>lots of on the job exper. and more.
> >> So that leaves Help Desk and Developer. My goal is DBA with a medium to
> >large firm, by Full
> >>time or contract. But what about Help Desk? What I mean is this: How likely
> >is it that my first job
> >>will be Help Desk? Also, Is the Help Desk to Developer to DBA path
> >realistic? Will I end up "stuck"
> >>at Help Desk? Or should I hold out for a Developer position?
> >> By the way, I should say that I have no job exper. in databasing. Just
> >school work and P.O.
> >>8/ Dev. 2000 trial versions on my home box. This is a career switch for me.
> >I expect that if I'm a
> >>newbie I may be paid like a newbie, but I want to follow the career path
> >that will put me the surest
> >>way to my goals.
> >> Time for more questions? When do I stop only studying and take a job when
> >the offer comes?
> >>That is, I also took courses in C/C++ and Visual Basic. Should I really try
> >to be an expert in
> >>everything? And what about java? Should I go back to square 1 and learn
> >some java? I know you can
> >>never learn too much, but sooner or later I need real world exper. if I'm
> >to go anywhere?
> >> A lot of questions, I know. But I've asked for and gotten great help here
> >before. I respect
> >>you guys and would welcome your opinions one and all. My thanks in advance,
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >
> >
Received on Mon Mar 01 1999 - 20:34:03 CST