Re: Q: Oracle Training for DBA

Somehow I concur with your views , most of the DBA I know of who have been doing Oracle for at least 4 years doesn't have these certifications. Many that I met who has it , has been doing the job for 2 years or less , In fairness though perhaps because these exams were offered during that period.

However besides the revenues generated by these exams this provides potential employer for a "good" way employer to measure your skills specially if you have been involved with Oracle for less than a year or so.

It could be compared for a college diploma , It says you can do the job , but are you skilled enough to do it in the real world. That is why grandpa DBA is has some advantage compared to grandson.  

Whenever client or potential employer ask for these certificates , why not just say " I have five years of experience being an Oracle DBA , I hope it is enough replacement for those papers you were looking for ...."

Honestly , I wouldn't mind having the exam, or atleast just reviewing the questions, since it would help me refresh those things that I've been practicing for years or maybe pickup new things that I missed along the way. But why pay that much if I can pickup those things on the books and on the actual day to day jobs.

There is no shortcut... skills always comes first, And the only way to get it it to plunge yourself into actually administering databases and solving those problems or prevent it from happening .

Just a thought !.....

Au revoir !

Greg Parsons wrote:
>
> Hi,
> The following comments are regardless of budget.
> 'Oracle Masters' is a set of courses constructed and administered by
> Oracle. If you take the courses (passively or actively) you get a
> paper.
> 'Oracle Certified Professional' is a test. I don't know the current
> disposition, but it was administered by an outside firm and lately
> Oracle wants to take that over. From what I've heard, Oracle will
> expand it to 4 tests at $125, instead of the previous single test at
> $100. Before, the test was good for a particular version of Oracle.
> Now, the tests are good for certification for one year.
> Philosophy: Anyone working with Oracle server on a regular basis should
> know all the concepts on that test(s). However, if you need the test to
> verify that you know it, then you're probably inexperienced with
> Oracle. If you have the experience, you should be able to demonstrate
> it directly - in which case, why do you need the test? Novell and MS do
> it, why not Oracle? I don't understand the benefit of these
> certifications, though it looks like they will continue as revenue
> streams.
> It would be more helpful I've deduced to have (and have started
> constructing for myself) an Oracle server study-guide to cover all
> aspects of the test. The goal being to reduce the manuals necessary
> down to less than 100 pages of text with all references back to the
> original manuals. Anyone want to help?
> So, while I'm unsure about taking a test to verify knowledge, I think
> the information it purports to verify is worth knowing.
>
> Greg
>
> The Kid wrote:
> >
> > I'm new to Oracle, and I feel like I could sink up past my eye balls
> > without too much trouble!
> >
> > So, what's the point with "Oracle Masters" and "Oracle Certified
> > Professional" training tracks or programs? Do I want one or the the
> > other, or both - assuming the budget can support the expense?
> >
> > It looks like the "masters" plans involve a lot more training, while
> > the "OCP" gives you a test from an outside company.
> >
> > Thx for your thoughts.
> >
> > Email contains no-spam stuff...
> > emale: dondealy { at } teleport { dot } com

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