Re: We want Oracle for Linux !!!

What Oracle _could_ do rather cheaply, if they wanted to, is:

1. Pick a distribution (Red Hat would be a good choice);
2. Get the server working (and SQL*Net!)
3. Post a white paper how-to on Btheir WWW site with caveats that this is not and will never be a supported configuration, and decline to sell a maintenance contract (i.e., tech support) to anyone setting up such a configuration.
4. Alternatively, support a WorkGroup Server version - after all, Linux is a much easier server to support than, say, OS/2 - and any shop radical enough to run Oracle on an OS/2 Server is certainly a potential Linux prospect! It would certainly be what the marketing types call 'push-pull' demand.

There is a precedent: Sybase ported Net-Lib and CT-Lib (and presumably, DB-Lib) to Linux at least two years ago, with said 'no support!' tenets.

Perhaps if we all e-mail Larry Ellison...

Regards,
jh

Rainer Hoerbe (rhoerbe_at_netpromote.co.at) wrote:
: On 18 Jan 1997 00:56:36 +0100, Dirk Vleugels <vleugels_at_do.isst.fhg.de>
: wrote:
 

: >aak2_at_Ra.MsState.Edu (Atif Ahmad Khan) writes:
: >
: >>
: >> Alvin Sylvain <alvin_at_c-square.no.junk> writes:
: >>
: >> >Atif Ahmad Khan wrote:
: >> >>
: >> >> If anybody at Oracle is listening :
: >> >>
: >> >> We want Oracle fo Red-Hat Linux !!!!
 

: >> >Don't tell us, there's nothing =we= can do about it!
: >>
: >> If you read my first line, I was addressing "somebody at Oracle".
: >>
: >> >Instead, try contacting Oracle at their web site, which I think
: >> >is something along the lines of http://www.oracle.com.
: >>
: >> I have already done that several times, not just about a Linux
: >> release but regarding other matters also. I think they are just
: >> piping it all to /dev/null
: >>
: >> >Altho you'll probably have to have a serious sales pitch to
: >> >make it happen. Oracle is interested in selling lots of
: >> >product for lots of money. Linux suffers from a) not having
: >> >as large a customer base, therefore there are fewer people
: >>
: >> Are you kidding me ? Or are you really serious ? There are more
: >> Linux users out there than Solaris users ! Anybody who thinks
: >> otherwise should come out of the hole that they have been living
: >> in for the past several years.
: >>
: >> >to sell to, and b) the people who get Linux are cost-conscious.
: >> >If not, they would have bought Solaris or something for several
: >> >10's of 100's of dollars. Instead, they bought Linux for the
: >> >price of thick book, or they downloaded for the price of a
: >> >phone connection. Therefore, Oracle for Linux would have to
: >>
: >> Uh ? Again you don't have the slightest idea of what you are
: >> talking about. Do you have any experience with the latest Linux at
: >> all ? Or do you just like talking about stuff that you are completely
: >> clueless about ? I paid for my Solaris OS !!! and I got my Linux
: >> for free !!! and I still would rather be using Linux !!! How much
: >> more clear do you want me to be ?
: >>
: >> >be =extremely= inexpensive (read: CHEAP), or folks won't buy.
: >>
: >> Stupidity has no end. I have bought Oracle for Solaris. I'll
: >> gladly buy Oracle for Linux ! (I have got my wallet out, I'd be willing
: >> to pay in advance). And there are alot of other folks like me ! Heck
: >> people are so desperate that they have bought the SCO version of Oracle
: >> and have been trying to get the SCO version to work under Linux.
: >>
: >> >This adds up to a pretty huge "We'll Just Wait And See" from
: >> >Oracle's point of view.
: >>
: >> Yeah, well, Oracle has fools like you making the decisions it seems.
: >>
: >
: >Hm, being a happy Linux user myself (SparcLinux that is) i'm still
: >impressed how some parts of the linux user community still makes
: >idiots out of them self. I never thought that it would be possible
: >that any Unix OS (we remember the Amiga/Atari, do we?) would get followers
: >like a soccer team: (unwanted) hooligans.
: >
: >The reasons for oracle not to maintain a Linux port are pretty
: >obvious. There is simply no way to tell which combination of kernel /
: >libc / modules/ init / binutils is available.
: >
: >Otherwise, wouldn't it be possible for oracle to ship their own
: >version of Linux?? (it's free after all)
: >
: >Dirk
: >
: >(trying to avoid all advocacy groups, but ..)
: >
: I thought that Oracle was proud of running Oracle on every toaster
: except the AS/400.
 

: Other software that is pretty complex has been ported to linux and
: serves it purpuse very well.
 

: Rainer

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