Re: Exadata training suggestions
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 14:33:48 -0400
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I will say that Oracle Exadata Cloud _at_ Customer (Exa CC) is quite a bit
different than Exadata on-prem *and* also different than Exadata in the
cloud. (We're a C_at_C customer)
With Exa CC, you only have access to the DomU (the VMs which are your
hostnames).
Patching is quite the nightmare.
Support is quite rough for any issues outside the DomU as you have to
engage CloudOps - and may have to engage CloudOps for DomU stuff but not
usually.
So support model ends up looking something like this:
I'm not 100% convinced Oracle will be able to successfully make Cloud _at_
Customer work long term without some serious & severe changes. And if
there has _ever_ been an over-engineered product at Oracle (I'm looking at
you OEM) , Exadata has it in spades.
Chris
On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 1:37 PM Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
> I would start by reading "Expert Oracle Exadata" by Kerry Osborne & Tanel
Customer=>Create SR
Customer=>Talk to first level Rep that picks up ticket
Customer=>Explain to Rep you're a C_at_C customer (even though you put it in
the ticket and it should be obvious)
Oracle SR Rep=> Tells customer to wait while they enage CloudOps
Customer=>Waits
CloudOps=>Does "x" and finds "y"
CloudOps=>Tell customer "Y"
Oracle SR Rep=>Tells / repeats CloudOps info to Customer
Customer=>Tells Oracle SR Rep to tell CloudOps "Z"
[rinse & repeat]
> Poder. Exadata is RAC with a twist, but mostly RAC. If you have an
> experience with RAC, not just ASM, you are well equipped to deal with
> Exadata. A book by two Oracle aces of spades, in addition to your RAC
> experience, should be enough to get you going. It's an excellent book:
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> https://www.apress.com/gp/book/9781430233923
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> There is also the 2nd edition of this book with Martin Bach as the
> principal author:
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> https://www.apress.com/gp/book/9781430262411
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> I haven't read the 2nd edition but Martin Bach is a prolific author and
> his books are usually good. This one should be no exception.
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> Regards
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> Regards
> On Tue, 2020-10-06 at 15:54 +0000, Kemnitz, LeRoy wrote:
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> All –
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> I am completely new the Oracle Exadata env. We are planning on doing the
> Exadata Cloud at the Customer. I have been running Oracle database and ASM
> on Linux for years, version 12.1 and 12.2 currently. We are planning on
> consolidating onto the Exadata.
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> I am looking for suggestions for good training options. These options
> need to be low cost and online.
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> Any ideas??
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> LeRoy
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> Mladen Gogala
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> *Database Consultant Tel: (347) 321-1217*
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