Re: select from ts$ in v$undostat.maxqueryid

From: Jonathan Lewis <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 10:39:12 +0000
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That's correct.
But, in principle, the sql id is for a query - not for DML - so you wouldn't generally expect it to generate undo; Oracle is only flagging it as a query that MIGHT receive an ORA-01555 if the undo retention were less than that time.

Interestingly the description says the query is reported as

"The length of a query is measured from the cursor open time to the last fetch/execute time of the cursor."

This is a little ambiguous, since it suggests that the ts$ query should record only fractions of a second - the time between open and fetch for that last call - but possibly "last fetch" means "the fetch that returns end-of-fetch".

Regards
Jonathan Lewis



From: Noveljic Nenad <nenad.noveljic_at_vontobel.com> Sent: 04 February 2020 10:26
To: Jonathan Lewis; ORACLE-L (oracle-l_at_freelists.org) Subject: RE: select from ts$ in v$undostat.maxqueryid

Thanks.

But then, it isn't the cause for high undo usage, is it? It's just the query whose cursor remained open the longest.

Best regards,

Nenad

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From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org <oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org> On Behalf Of Jonathan Lewis Sent: Dienstag, 4. Februar 2020 11:18
To: ORACLE-L (oracle-l_at_freelists.org) <oracle-l_at_freelists.org> Subject: Re: select from ts$ in v$undostat.maxqueryid

If you execute and trace

select tablespace_name from dba_tablespaces where tablespace_name like '{something returning more than one row}'

You'll find that for each tablespace found Oracle executes the recursive query. The odd thing is that the query only ever fetches the "first" row from the table so you have to wonder why it's used at all. However, the key thing to note in the trace is that you see

PARSE#
EXEC#
FETCH# ....... r=1
CLOSE# for the cursor each time it runs, except the last time when it doesn't CLOSE#.

This may be why it can appear to run for 1378 seconds - it didn't reach end-of-fetch, and it didn't close, so it's holding state open at the original SCN.

Regards
Jonathan Lewis



From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org <oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org> on behalf of Noveljic Nenad <nenad.noveljic_at_vontobel.com> Sent: 04 February 2020 08:49
To: Stefan Koehler; ORACLE-L (oracle-l_at_freelists.org) Subject: RE: select from ts$ in v$undostat.maxqueryid

Hello Stefan,

Yes, but the query doesn't run longer than a couple of seconds and MAXQUERYLEN shows 1378s.

Best regards,

Nenad

https://nenadnoveljic.com/blog/

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From: Stefan Koehler <contact_at_soocs.de> Sent: Dienstag, 4. Februar 2020 09:39
To: Noveljic Nenad <nenad.noveljic_at_vontobel.com>; ORACLE-L (oracle-l_at_freelists.org) <oracle-l_at_freelists.org> Subject: Re: select from ts$ in v$undostat.maxqueryid

Hello Nenad,
do you possibly have any monitoring tool that runs a query on dba_tablespaces (e.g. select * from dba_tablespaces where tablespace_name like '%TEST%')?

You should see this query as a recursive one then :)

Best Regards
Stefan Koehler

Independent Oracle performance consultant and researcher Website: http://www.soocs.de
Twitter: _at_OracleSK

> Noveljic Nenad <nenad.noveljic_at_vontobel.com> hat am 4. Februar 2020 um 09:17 geschrieben:
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> The following query (sql_id is 89w8y2pgn25yd) was recorded in v$undostat.maxqueryid in a 12.2. database during a period of a high undo usage:
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> select ts# from sys.ts$ where ts$.online$ != 3 and bitand(flags,2048) != 2048 ;
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> select
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> undoblks,txncount,maxquerylen,maxconcurrency,activeblks
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> from v$undostat u
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> where maxqueryid='89w8y2pgn25yd'
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> ;
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> UNDOBLKS,TXNCOUNT,MAXQUERYLEN,MAXCONCURRENCY,ACTIVEBLKS
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> 39199,4027,1378,5,2531960
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>
> …
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> The query itself has never been captured in v$active_session_history which might indicate that the cursor remains open during some other activity.
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> There were two deletes running in the observed time period.
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> Does anybody know what could trigger the execution of the query above?
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>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Nenad
> https://nenadnoveljic.com/blog/



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