Re: RIP DDL Wizard

I had a chat eith one of folks from RedGate. He is not aware of this.
Maybe it's worth making a bigger fuss of it to get them informed about your point of view

Cheers
Jacek

On Thu, 7 Mar 2019, 22:59 Andy Klock, <andy_at_oracledepot.com> wrote:

> Or better yet, open source the software so the community can update it. Do
> that thing you do Kellyn.
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> Andy K
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> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:04 PM Reen, Elizabeth <
> dmarc-noreply_at_freelists.org> wrote:
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>> Agreed, but how hard is it to create a perpetual license key? They don’t
>> need to update it, but to put the current owners out is not a good idea.
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>> Liz
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>> *From:* [External] oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org <
>> oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org> *On Behalf Of *[External] Kellyn
>> Pot'Vin-Gorman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 06, 2019 5:48 PM
>> *To:* Jacek Gębal <jgebal_at_gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* MAdams_at_equian.com; oracle-l_at_freelists.org
>> *Subject:* Re: RIP DDL Wizard
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>> I'm still trying to keep them interested in the Oracle side, it's just
>> that they have so much weight in on the Microsoft side. I'm in the middle
>> of a multi-part series on Linux for the DBA, but they know their audience.
>> They are easily one of the top two vendors at PASS Summit each year and
>> their lead evangelist, Grant Fritchey is the president of PASS, (formerly
>> Professional Association of SQL Server). The other three evangelists are
>> all Microsoft experts, too. They were my competing offer when I went to
>> Microsoft and to be honest, they made it clear that they loved my Oracle
>> expertise, but really wanted me for my DevOps knowledge most.
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>> If you don't have the management, marketing and sales focus on a
>> platform, it's difficult to find a reason to invest in it. Microsoft has
>> worked out incredibly well for them and it's very supportive of partners,
>> where many times, Oracle competes more heavily with it's partners, (just my
>> 2c).
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>> *Kellyn Pot'Vin-Gorman*
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>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 5:16 PM Jacek Gębal <jgebal_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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>> utPLSQL was recently supported by RedGate and we're getting interest from
>> their side in unit testing for Oracle PL/SQL & SQL.
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>> It seems strange that they are giving up on some of their products for
>> Oracle DB given their overall interest in DB DevOps and CI/CD.
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>> Cheers
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>> Jacek
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>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 20:31, Kellyn Pot'Vin-Gorman <dbakevlar_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> I'm sorry to hear this and will be giving the folks over there a hard
>> time about it. Although Redgate doesn't have the following on the Oracle
>> side like they do on the Microsoft SQL side, its still a shame to see it
>> go. With their huge impact on the DevOps, CI/CD with their SQL Provision,
>> (think thin clone with data masking) product plugged in with their SQL
>> Toolbelt, they've got quite the customer base, with Oracle supported stuff
>> just a side gig, (same with MySQL and other db platforms).
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>> Good to know about DDL Wizard.
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>> *Kellyn Pot'Vin-Gorman*
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>> DBAKevlar Blog
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>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:03 PM Matt Adams <MAdams_at_equian.com> wrote:
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>> I just found out that Redgate (the purchasers of the DDL Wizard
>> developers Net 2000 LTD.) will no longer supply license keys for any
>> version, including the free/unsupported version. Which means that while
>> the software can still be downloaded, it’s useless.
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>> I know that DDL Wizard has largely been replaced by the DBMS_METADATA
>> package and features built into software packages like TOAD and SQL
>> DEVELOPER, but I still used it on a regular basis and still loved it.
>> Unfortunately, my previous laptop has died, and I cannot run DDL Wizard on
>> the new one.
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>> This tool was of tremendous benefit in it’s heyday and I for one will
>> miss it.
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>> Good bye DDL Wizard. Rest in Piece.
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