Re: Re: Re Oracle Licensing

I was following up on Dave's

Even though, as long as it wasn't open, a standby never had to be licensed
> before 2014?

I hadn't realized it was a thread on storage replication to be honest because of the subject line change. In any case, unless* hot standby *means replicated data and not a second set of database processes I don't see how the installed and running clause won't get you.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:34 AM l.flatz_at_bluewin.ch <l.flatz_at_bluewin.ch> wrote:

> In this case the replication is on the storage tier. That is a lot
> different from Data Guard. Data Guard requires an instance running on the
> disaster site.
> Storage replacation does not require that. It is not even necessary that
> Oracle Software is installed on the disaster site at all.
> If it is installed, it might no be running. All of that can make a
> difference.
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> A standby database ( and dev databases) has always* been licensable, and
> in the same way as the primary. The only exceptions will be if you
> specifically inserted a clause otherwise in your contract with Oracle, or
> if you are using named user licensing. That is unlikely to say the least.
> As an example, I offer the EMEA OLSA from June 2000
> http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/olsa-ire-v122304-070683.pdf
> note the definition of processor.
>
> I suspect this comes from the wording of the docs when Active Data Guard
> arrived
>
> "*Oracle Data Guard 11g*
> . Is included with Oracle Database Enterprise Edition - it does not
> require a separate license . It Includes all Data Guard capabilities from
> previous releases and many
> other new features that enhance data protection, high availability,
> disaster recovery, and utilization of standby databases and systems"
>
> The point of which was to distinguish between DataGuard being an EE
> feature and Active Data Guard being chargeable and not to indicate that DR
> was free.
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 8:31 PM Iggy Fernandez <iggy_fernandez_at_hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The "policies" are explicitly non-contractual and may be revoked or
>> changed by Oracle at any time. However, there is probably a good legal
>> argument that you relied on them for guidance.
>>
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>> > This has the relevant answers you're looking for:
>> >
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oracle.com%2Fassets%2Fdata-recovery-licensing-070587.pdf&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbb144e6908e54b3be89608d649a3c0eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636777364993336976&amp;sdata=DAXUy4xmkTLIBWamQpQ%2F%2FkgcAV4XGnPQN%2FfvlhZtraE%3D&amp;reserved=0
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>> So, forgive me, but am I correct in thinking that my hot standby server
>> now has to be licensed? And is supposed to have been since 2014?
>>
>> Even though, as long as it wasn't open, a standby never had to be
>> licensed
>> before 2014?
>>
>> Dave
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