Re: Rapid Home Provisioning vs Database Fleet Maintenance
From: Pete Sharman <peter.sharman_at_westnet.com.au>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:42:06 +1100
Message-Id: <C007485E-C103-4F31-855A-CA03A4995664_at_westnet.com.au>
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:56 AM Norman, John A <NORMANJ8_at_nationwide.com> wrote:
>> Our company uses Fleet Maintenance for Oracle Home provisioning and Database Patching. We plan on using it for Database Upgrades too in the next year.
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>> Gary Henderson and Vaithianathan Soundararajan presented on our company’s use of Fleet Maintenance yesterday at OOW. Hopefully, you were able to attend their presentation.
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>> The actual patching process runs roughly 6-10 minutes per database for us (would be quicker, but patching the OJVM component requires bouncing the database to put it in upgrade mode, and bouncing it again after patching is complete to open it read/write).
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>> We have well over 1,000 databases, and patch each database at least twice per year. What used to take an entire staff of 10 DBAs is now handled by 1-2 DBAs.
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>> Thanks,
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>> John
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>> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Pecoraro, Michael
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:16 AM
>> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Rapid Home Provisioning vs Database Fleet Maintenance
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>> I’m curious to know how many are using Rapid Home Provisioning in their organization and how you are using it. Have you compared RHP to Database Fleet Maintenance? Are you considering using Database Fleet Maintenance to patch and upgrade your databases over RHP?
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>> We have been using RHP for roughly the past year. In our environment, RHP is used mainly to provision Oracle Homes for our databases and to create the databases (CDBs). Our original plan was to use it for database patching as well. The creation of Oracle Home images and working copies has worked well overall across our various clusters. However, the performance of the working copy creation is not good. The process runs over 90 minutes in a four node cluster. It runs much longer in our larger clusters. The database creation process works, but in some cases we wish we had more customization options. The database patching (“rhpctl move database”) has been very buggy in our environment. Given the various issues we have with RHP, we are considering a switch to Database Fleet Maintenance.
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>> I’m at OOW this week. If you’d like to meet up to discuss it further, send me a message.
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>> Thanks,
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>> Mike
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>> Michael J Pecoraro
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>> University at Buffalo
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>> mikejp_at_buffalo.edu
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:42:06 +1100
Message-Id: <C007485E-C103-4F31-855A-CA03A4995664_at_westnet.com.au>
Yup.
Pete
Sent while mobile, please excuse my typos!
> On 23 Oct 2018, at 10:10 pm, niall.litchfield_at_gmail.com wrote: > > Hi John > > How is Database Fleet Maintenance licensed? It looks as though it is part of the Lifecycle Management Pack. Is that correct? >
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:56 AM Norman, John A <NORMANJ8_at_nationwide.com> wrote:
>> Our company uses Fleet Maintenance for Oracle Home provisioning and Database Patching. We plan on using it for Database Upgrades too in the next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary Henderson and Vaithianathan Soundararajan presented on our company’s use of Fleet Maintenance yesterday at OOW. Hopefully, you were able to attend their presentation.
>>
>>
>>
>> The actual patching process runs roughly 6-10 minutes per database for us (would be quicker, but patching the OJVM component requires bouncing the database to put it in upgrade mode, and bouncing it again after patching is complete to open it read/write).
>>
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>> We have well over 1,000 databases, and patch each database at least twice per year. What used to take an entire staff of 10 DBAs is now handled by 1-2 DBAs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
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>> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Pecoraro, Michael
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:16 AM
>> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Rapid Home Provisioning vs Database Fleet Maintenance
>>
>>
>>
>> Nationwide Information Security Warning: This is an external email. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you trust the sender.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m curious to know how many are using Rapid Home Provisioning in their organization and how you are using it. Have you compared RHP to Database Fleet Maintenance? Are you considering using Database Fleet Maintenance to patch and upgrade your databases over RHP?
>>
>>
>>
>> We have been using RHP for roughly the past year. In our environment, RHP is used mainly to provision Oracle Homes for our databases and to create the databases (CDBs). Our original plan was to use it for database patching as well. The creation of Oracle Home images and working copies has worked well overall across our various clusters. However, the performance of the working copy creation is not good. The process runs over 90 minutes in a four node cluster. It runs much longer in our larger clusters. The database creation process works, but in some cases we wish we had more customization options. The database patching (“rhpctl move database”) has been very buggy in our environment. Given the various issues we have with RHP, we are considering a switch to Database Fleet Maintenance.
>>
>>
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>> I’m at OOW this week. If you’d like to meet up to discuss it further, send me a message.
>>
>>
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>> Thanks,
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>> Mike
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>> ---
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>> Michael J Pecoraro
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>> University at Buffalo
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>> mikejp_at_buffalo.edu
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