Re: Re: Design Question

From: Vishalaksha Vyas <vishalaksha_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 22:44:07 -0500
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Thanks Steven but I don't think that budget will allow this option :) and also recurring cost won't be acceptable.

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Thanks & Regards
Vishalaksha Vyas

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Givens, Steven <sgivens_at_fnni.com> wrote:

> It would cost $, but perhaps Active Data Guard? You’d still have to
> capture the changes on the standby and forward back to the ERP. While we
> are throwing $’s at this, perhaps Golden Gate as well? J
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> *From:* oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_
> freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Vishalaksha Vyas
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:59 PM
> *To:* Mark W. Farnham <mwf_at_rsiz.com>
> *Cc:* oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> *Subject:* [External] Re: Design Question
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> Thanks Mark for the suggestions. Can you please explain what do you mean
> by priority construction insertion? We are not going to have more than 24
> hours of the downtime for ERP but during that time Oracle database based
> standalone application will be up and running and this application will
> keep talking with the shop floor machines and will queue up all the WIP and
> inventory transactions.
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> Do you have an idea about any other better mechanism for communication
> between ERP and standalone application for live data exchange and the
> scenario when the main data source (ERP) is not available but still
> standalone application is able to work independently?
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> Thanks & Regards
> Vishalaksha Vyas
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> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Mark W. Farnham <mwf_at_rsiz.com> wrote:
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> Start by making certain that all test systems are prevented from sending
> instructions to the machine floor that might cause unwanted <anything> to
> be built.
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> Do you know what the service levels of backlog, priority construction
> insertion, and allowed outages are for the systems upstream from the
> machine floor? (include your network risks.)
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> The longer those lags, the easier, except if you do have priority
> construction insertion abilities into the work queue, that makes it more
> difficult to pre-stage a backlog of work on the shop floor.
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> Depending on what you’re making and what sorts of late delivery penalties
> might be in your contracts, configuring this incorrectly could be very
> expensive. I have given you only the most lightweight minimums for a start.
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> *From:* oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_
> freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Vishalaksha Vyas
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:47 AM
> *To:* oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> *Subject:* Re: Design Question
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> Does anyone have suggestions on this one?
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> Thanks & Regards
> Vishalaksha Vyas
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> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Vishalaksha Vyas <vishalaksha_at_gmail.com>
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> Hello Experts,
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> I need an advice on the interface design between two Oracle systems. These
> two systems would be Oracle ERP (R12, DB: 11g R2) and standalone
> application using Oracle Database 12c.
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> The standalone application running on Oracle DB 12c works as the bridge
> between ERP and the shop floor machinery in a typical manufacturing plant.
> Shop floor users will work 75% of the time on the standalone application
> and they need to login into ERP system only for 25% of the time. Oracle ERP
> is the owner of all kind of data. Functionalities within the standalone
> application use live data from the ERP database and if the ERP system is
> not available then the standalone application will not work.
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> ORACLE ERP (11g R2) ç===è STANDALONE APPLICATION (Oracle DB, 12c) ç===è
> Shop floor machinery
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> The requirement is to design such an interface between ERP and standalone
> application which will allow the standalone application to work in
> isolation even if the ERP system is not up. I am thinking about below
> option to achieve this.
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> Inbound Information (ERP to standalone):- Use of staging table in the
> standalone DB. This staging table will work as the source of data instead
> of directly reaching to ERP. There will be a scheduled job which will keep
> updating this staging table with the latest live data from ERP system so
> that when ERP is not available, still standalone application will be able
> to use the live data.
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> ---> There is an assumption here that the live data is not changing
> frequently which actually matches the current business process as well.
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> Outbound (standalone to ERP):- Use of Oracle advanced queues to push the
> shop floor transaction like sub inventory transfers or WIP completion to
> ERP. Standalone application will write the data into these queues and when
> ERP system is not available then these queues will hold the data and will
> push again whenever ERP system is up.
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> I would really appreciate if anyone can suggest some innovative ideas or
> have suggestions for the current design.
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> Thanks
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> Vishalaksha
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