Re: Oracle to Postgres training at PGConf US

From: Daniel Westermann <daniel.westermann_at_dbi-services.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 07:30:59 +0200 (CEST)
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Exactly, nothing more to say

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> On 21 Jul 2017, at 22:14, Matthew Parker <dimensional.dba_at_comcast.net> wrote:
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> Actually if you go to the Merriam Webster's website you will find the game of Go under the noun section on the page for the word go.
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> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/go
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> Daniel's reference to Go relates to the Game of go being the hardest Game for AI to overcome, but was overcome last year by Google.
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> http://fortune.com/2016/03/12/googles-go-computer-vs-human/
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> "Being Smart" in any interpretation of the phrase doesn't guarantee you will solve a problem in the most efficient or correct way. You can solve a problem for the moment and everyone is happy and you congratulate yourself as "being smart", but your solution fails a year later as some variable changes like size of the data 6 months down the road.
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> To: Daniel Westermann <daniel.westermann_at_dbi-services.com>
> Cc: Joshua D. Drake <jd_at_commandprompt.com>; oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: Re: Oracle to Postgres training at PGConf US
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> I am not sure that "skills in playing Go" are synonymous with "being smart". If you check the dictionary, you will not find the game of Go being mentioned anywhere:
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> http://www.dictionary.com/browse/smart?s=t
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> And when I was a DBA, I knew my data really well and was frequently asked to speed up a piece of SQL code. With Oracle, I was mostly successful. With Postgres, not so much, because I was lacking the means to do so. Also, the premise that "hints are optimizer bugs" is dead wrong. Hints are means to override the optimizer. All other major databases have them, for a reason. So does Postgres. Despite its developer community.
> Regards
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> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 19:46:56 +0200 (CEST)
> Daniel Westermann <daniel.westermann_at_dbi-services.com> wrote:
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>> "Also, I consider myself smarter than any
>> program, including the Postgres planner"
>> 
>> Impressive, maybe you should learn Go and prove that 😉
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>> Sent from my Phone

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