Re: A Very Basic Oracle on VmWare System

Ian,

Can you clarify your concern? Is the problem that you can't migrate your databases without taking an outage, or that the LUN doesn't offer enough protection for your database files?

Seth Miller

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Most people run their VM's over shared storage, which allows for vmotion
> and storage vmotion. When I am setting up small stuff, not enterprise, but
> want to make sure of the data I use ASM and ASM native data protection, ie
> standard redundancy. On the OS side, we can use snapshots.
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:05 AM, MacGregor, Ian A. <ian_at_slac.stanford.edu
> > wrote:
>
>> We run our VMs on local disk; i.e, no SAN or NAS. Let’s say physical
>> machine a has 24 disks. The standard configuration to create a 22 disk
>> RAID 10 physical LUN. Then carve the virtual file systems out of that.
>> I don’t like this idea because, to doesn’t provide enough protection
>> for the control and online redo log files.
>> The reason for setting up one physical LUN is to allow for VM
>> migration.
>>
>> I presently have several small databases running on several VMs. I
>> insisted on at least two physical LUNs. The inability to migrate VMs
>> means the possibility of additional outages should their hypervisors need
>> to be shutdown, and the outage cannot be coordinated with other patching.
>> So the only databases I have on VMs are ones which do not have to be up
>> 24 X 365
>>
>> I’m not sure how VmWare has become so popular with this restriction. We
>> are replacing our present physical machines which host the VMs. The main
>> difference is the new servers are all SSD. This is highly attractive,
>> but the VmWare administrator has indicated their will be no exceptions for
>> Oracle
>>
>> If it is standard to care the VM file systems out of one physical LUNs
>> what is being done to protect the control file and redo logs.
>>
>> Ian MacGregor
>> SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory
>> ian_at_slac.stanford.edu
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>
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