Re: Re: Oracle database on VM Ware

If you are looking to move to VMWare *and that move will involve license purchases* then it is sensible to make sure that you engage on this point with Oracle and ensure that it is written into your contract with them as part of contract negotiation. This can most certainly be done, and it's much easier to get Oracle to agree to such things (and get the attention of in-house legal) when money and contracts are naturally involved already. It's much harder if you just move existing databases, don't negotiate with Oracle and later get a request for an audit :).

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 2:41 PM, l.flatz <l.flatz_at_bluewin.ch> wrote:

> Hi Chris
>
> thanks for posting this message. I told my customers that same thing quite
> often. However in the end they were afraid. Good to see somebody else to
> say the same.
>
> Regards
>
> Lothar
>
>
>
> Von meinem Samsung Galaxy Smartphone gesendet.
>
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: Chris Taylor <christopherdtaylor1994_at_gmail.com>
> Datum: 27.04.17 15:32 (GMT+01:00)
> An: andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com
> Cc: Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com>, Neil Chandler <
> neil_chandler_at_hotmail.com>, oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Betreff: Re: Oracle database on VM Ware
>
> Here's the thing to consider (that I replied to Jeffrey off-list about).
>
> 1. If you license Oracle correctly/tightly on VMWare (not an entire farm
> opposed to what Oracle tries to tell you), then you are going to be in for
> a fight - Oracle will threaten you, potentially take you to court (and
> likely lose) but they're betting you'll cave in before it makes it to
> court. The problem is, the stress involved - keeping your companies legal
> team involved, dealing with high pressure tactics from Oracle and whatever
> else comes along.
>
> So, if a company is willing to "go to the mattresses" against Oracle and
> their stance of running on VMWare it can be done, but the tradeoff is
> significant and the legal costs could be high.
>
>
> Just my $0.02 (if that)
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Here is a discussion of the topic. As I read the conclusion, if Oracle
>> cannot physically run on a server, you dont need to license it.
>>
>> http://houseofbrick.com/managing-oracle-licensing-in-a-
>> shared-storage-environment/
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/27/2017 04:58 AM, Neil Chandler wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes it does. The Nutanix documentation tells you to get your situation
>>> confirmed with legal and they explicitly (and sensibly) avoid confirming
>>> any license approval.
>>>
>>> That is true, but Nutanix has a deal with Oracle:
>>>
>>> http://next.nutanix.com/t5/Nutanix-Connect-Blog/Reducing-Ora
>>> cle-Licensing-Cost-on-Nutanix/ba-p/13656
>>>
>>> The installation ends up being much cheaper, which is the goal.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mladen Gogala
>>> Oracle DBA
>>> Tel: (347) 321-1217
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew W. Kerber
>>
>> 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'
>>
>
>

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