Re: ACE Points for Oracle-L

From: Lothar Flatz <>
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 19:13:55 +0100
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who wrote /(Emphasize mine)/ "/I//don't particularly care for the aces, masters or the associates of the fabled furniture store ("Oak Table"). *I've learned some truths about that long time ago* //, but that is not something that I would be willing to discuss at length on this list"? /Your ghostwriter? Somebody misusing your email address? You are hinting at something you learned, but you are not naming it (=gossip) neither you are producing evidence (=unfounded). I was facing behavior like that for the first time when I was about six years old. Even then I knew kids speaking like that just want to make themselves look interesting. Thus, fortunately, Wittgenstein's quote is most relevant.

On 24.12.2016 05:05, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> Lothar, what do you find to be "unfounded gossip"? The fact that ACE
> status means a special relation with Oracle Corp? I illustrated that
> with the curios case of Kevin Closson, Oracle ACE (ret). Also,
> Jonathan Lewis is leaving the program these days. That very
> formulation means that there is a program. Your quote of Wittgenstein
> is very smart, I can't beat that. Unfortunately, it's also completely
> irrelevant.
> Regards
> On 12/23/2016 05:52 AM, Lothar Flatz wrote:
>> so to cut this short you were talking "unfounded gossip", or to quote
>> Wittgenstein: "Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must remain silent"
>> Merry Christmas
>> On 23.12.2016 07:55, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>>> On 12/22/2016 10:41 PM, Tim Gorman wrote:
>>>> Mladen,
>>>> In the spirit of protecting against "fake news", perhaps you'd care
>>>> to substantiate any of these "truths" you've learned about the ACE
>>>> program?
>>> There is only one statement I made, so there is no need for plural.
>>> And I wouldn't care to substantiate it, any more than I already
>>> have. I said in my first email that I don't intend to discuss it at
>>> length, so I will not discuss it any further. Merry Christmas.


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