Re: Oracle 12c RAC in Docker

On 08/30/2016 07:52 AM, rajendra.pande_at_ubs.com wrote:
>
> Mr Gogala
>
> If you review some of the previous postings isn’t it strange that
> there have been more than one instance where you are on one side and
> most of the others, including old timers of likes of Tanel and JL
> are on the other.
>

I am unaware of Tanel's and Jonathan's participation in this thread. Must be Google Mail.

> Even assuming if you are polite and right – and others are not, then
> it is still time to evaluate why that happens and you bring out this
> kind of reaction from others
>

My question was "What would be the point?". Five words, for which I don't see how can be rude. And I cannot be blamed for the reactions of the others. Those are, by definition, out of my control.

> And then what is the point of participating in a list where the
> discussion tends to veer off from a technical discussion on the use of
> dockers, however useless it may be to this pointless back and forth
>
> Regards
>
And even after all of this and one more unsolicited lecture about my behaviour, I still don't see what would be the point of installing RAC by using Dockers containers.

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> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Tim Gorman
> *Sent:* Monday, August 29, 2016 7:04 PM
> *To:* oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> *Subject:* Re: Oracle 12c RAC in Docker
>
> When you're the only one interpreting your response as "polite", then
> it's past time to evaluate one's own actions objectively and
> unflinchingly.
>
> In many respects, virtual machines are still a single-tenant approach
> to server resources which is less efficient when all the services or
> resources aren't needed, while containers represent a more efficient
> multi-tenant architecture. The same rationale which has worked so
> well for SQL Server, Sybase, and MySQL at the database level, which
> Oracle is joining with the multi-tenant option, is the rationale
> behind Docker and LXC at the OS level.
>
> In the case of RAC, /containers meant for easy distribution/ are
> probably how OPS/RAC should have been designed from the outset, and it
> is never too late to try to retrofit.
>
>
>
>
> On 8/29/16 16:02, Mladen Gogala wrote:
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> On 08/29/2016 05:41 PM, Tim Gorman wrote:
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> A simple "no, I have not" would have been a civil (though
> equally unnecessary) response. "No, I don't know, so neither
> should you" would appear to have been a more honest response.
>
> Thanks for the lecture, but it is completely unnecessary, as most
> of the condescending lectures usually are. Nevertheless, people
> seem to be compelled to giving them anyway. My question was
> honest. Oracle RAC provides fault tolerance and requires
> considerable resources like shared storage, two network cards and
> several sets of IP addresses. Docker containers are lightweight
> virtual machines meant for easy distribution. What would be the
> point of that? The question is completely fair: what would such a
> configuration be used for?
>
>
>
> There is a lot to found googling information about LXC and Oracle
> <https://www.google.com/#q=lxc+oracle+12c>, including official
> product pages, blog posts, presentations, and videos. Likewise,
> there are detailed articles about Docker and Oracle
> <https://www.google.com/#q=docker+oracle+12c> from Frits Hoogland
> <https://fritshoogland.wordpress.com/2015/08/11/installing-the-oracle-database-in-docker/>
> and Franck Pachot
> <https://www.doag.org/formes/pubfiles/6939790/docs/Publikationen/DOAGNews/2015/03-2015/2015-03-News-Franck_Pachot-Data-virtualization-playing-with-Oracle-12c-on-Docker-containers-E.pdf>,
> among others.
>
> Is there anything specific you're seeking, or steps with which to
> get started?
>
>
> I am not particularly interested in Docker yet. It is still not a
> mainstream technology. I only politely asked what would be the
> point of putting RAC nodes into Docker containers. For training
> purposes, virtual machines are more than appropriate.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/29/16 15:17, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>
> On 08/29/2016 02:20 PM, Seth Miller wrote:
>
> Has anyone attempted to get 12.1.0.2 RAC running in Docker or
> LXC yet?
>
>
> Seth Miller
>
>
> What would be the point of that?
>
> --
>
> Mladen Gogala
>
> Oracle DBA
>
> Tel: (347) 321-1217
>

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