Re: Looking for Suggestions - 5 TB DB WHSE Backup options

From: Chris Taylor <christopherdtaylor1994_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 15:28:45 -0500
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Thanks again Matthew. Your thoroughness is always appreciated.

In regard to your questions, I'm going to have to get with the backup team and see if I can get those answers.

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Dimensional DBA <dimensional.dba_at_comcast.net
> wrote:

> The Oracle advice was only accurate if you used direct attached tape
> drives to your servers (circa 1990’s).
>
> As to Seth’s comment on “Shoe Shining”, that only applies to slow writes
> to the tape device where the head is having to backtrack to the last write
> point over and over again because the stream of data can’t keep up with the
> streaming speed of the tape drives. If the streams are maintaining the pipe
> to the tape drive itself, then you will not get “shoe shining”.
>
>
>
> The math shows 1Gb link, but are your links larger than that from DB
> server to Netbackup media server? If it is then yes multiplexing at the
> Netbackup side for tape drives can help boost performance. This is where I
> originally stated there is architecture and Netbackup tuning that has to be
> done.
>
> What version of tape drive do you have?
>
> How many tape drives are dedicated to the Netbackup pool for your backups?
>
> How many tape drivers are attached to each media server?
>
> Intel or AMD architecture on the Netbackup media servers?
>
> How many Netbackup media servers do you have to participate in the backup?
>
> How much free memory is available on the Netbackup media server?
>
> What is the chunk size setting of the Netbackup controlled tape drives.
>
> How are you sending the data via RMAN? Are you simply letting Oracle chunk
> the data or are you breaking the database backup apart into manageable
> chunks?
>
>
>
> No Mladen, there is still a large portion of the world that uses tape
> directly for backups except for slow streaming or glitchy data flow backups
> (like from many windows servers). Yes there are customers who use disk too.
>
>
>
> As to your question Chris
>
> “Let's say we have 6 tapes and he's configured it to do 2 threads per
> tape. Does that mean I can open 12 channels in RMAN? I mean, I would
> assume so but I have no idea LOL“
>
>
>
> Your math is correct but that assumes no one else is performing backups to
> those tape drives. This is where you have to work with your Netbackup admin
> as to what overall resources are available to you versus the rest of the
> backup system to get the optimal flow.
>
> At Amazon we had Netbackup tape multiplexing set to 8 and I have many
> clients that use multiplexing at 4 to 6. IT really depends on what
> performance you are getting for each incoming stream and how much shared
> memory is dedicated to Netbackup on the media servers and number of tape
> drives per media server to help maintaining streaming performance to the
> drive.
>
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