Re: Clone tool
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:58:31 -0600
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Wow, did you just transfer me to the sales team? They have been hoping for a way to strategically move a tech person to help them with sales! Expect a few thank you letters, Mladen!
Last time I checked, the Self Service Portal isn't a "marketing term", it's a full UI that's been around for a couple years now in EM12c.
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> The term "self-service" is a marketing term without much meaning, if any
> at all. With Commvault, anyone can clone the database, given the
> appropriate privileges. Privileges can be assigned by the Commvault
> administrator. Even at a gas station you need a credit card for "self
> service". Having a credit card is a privilege and very far from being
> universal, at that.
> Also, I am not sure that the original topic included marketing of the
> products and doing feature by feature comparison. In my opinion, that part
> is not appropriate for this group. I also try not to push the products of
> my employer through this list. Refraining from marketing avoids awkward
> situations like this one. After all, I am a computer geek, not a sales
> person.
>
>
> On 4/25/2016 9:36 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
>
> Steve Karam, Kyle Hailey, and I are contributors to this list who are also
> employees of Delphix.
>
> Back to the original topic, would you explain what "self-service
> capability" means?
>
>
>
>
> On 4/25/16 05:51, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>
> On 04/24/2016 11:18 PM, Tim Gorman wrote:
>
> Assuming a definition of "self-service capability" as "management of a
> separation of duties", that sounds like a "no" for CommVault.
>
>
> Only if you are adopting extremely simplistic interpretation, to the point
> of silliness.
>
>
> In contrast, Oracle Snapclone provides self-service provisioning through
> a service catalog of templates
> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oem/cloud-mgmt/em-snapclone-2267372.html>,
> and different accounts have a separation of duties (i.e. some accounts can
> create templates, other accounts can only clone from templates, etc), but
> there are others on this list who can explain this much more capably than I.
>
> As far as Delphix is concerned, its main user-interface enables DBAs to do
> everything, but the Delphix JetStream
> <https://docs.delphix.com/display/DOCS41/Getting+Started+with+Jet+Stream>
> user-interface is provided to be used by developers, QA testers, project
> leads, and other non-DBAs to manage what has already been provisioned.
>
> Tim, I am a Commvault employee. Are you by any chance a Delphix reseller
> or are you making money by pushing Delphix?
> Regards
>
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