Re: Backup/Cloning Marketing (was PureStorage for some reason)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:30:33 -0600
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I focused on my own product, Oracle's EM DBaaS, as it's what I know and didn't want to speak for Delphix, (although, as I kind of joke about, I sit feet from Tim and I know more about Delphix than any Oracle employee SHOULD! :)) In my post, I said Delphix once, when I stated that Delphix uses similar technology.
I just did a session at Collaborate less than two weeks ago on cloning with
EM13c features, including on-premise, Oracle Public Cloud and private cloud
options. I demonstrated that the DBA needs very little knowledge to set it
up via the GUI, build out the storage pools and could simply clone database
software, clone schemas and databases from drop down menus for any database
they are monitoring in EM13c.
I also covered the more advanced command line features for those that want
to dig into scripting and such.
The reason I didn't go deeper into mine is suddenly it seemed to be a "bash Delphix" thread and I'm about all technology and never too keen on bashing any product. The way you learn, the way you EVOLVE your technology best is by embracing all technology. You always find that someone is doing it better than you for this one aspect and you learn from them.
Kellyn
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:30 AM, Niall Litchfield < niall.litchfield_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Mladen
>
> I personally mentioned Actifio and Oracle SnapClone, at least the second
> of these was mentioned by others. I didn't mention existing backup
> solutions like commvault and NetApp SnapManager which was certainly an
> omission, but in my experience, these solutions usually require a degree of
> scripting and/or database and storage knowledge. The emerging database
> virtualisation tools take some, probably most, of that away.
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> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On 04/23/2016 06:38 PM, Tim Gorman wrote:
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>>> But attempting to control the conversation by labeling responses with
>>> which you disagree as "marketing" (or any other pejorative) is nonsense.
>>> We've all got eyes and brains and can decide that for ourselves. If you
>>> disagree, then rebut with facts, not opinions. Each person on the list can
>>> decide what is right, wrong, or drivel.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>> How many other tools were mentioned on this group, as a possible cloning
>> solution? How many times was Delphix mentioned during the last few months?
>> I am not attempting to control anything, I am just warning the readers of
>> this group about the marketing. There is a simple truth: there are other
>> solutions for cloning databases, which deserve some mention, with different
>> strengths and weaknesses. Yet, for some reason, only Delphix is regularly
>> offered as a cloning solution on this group.
>> Regards,
>>
>>
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>> Mladen Gogala
>> Oracle DBA
>> http://mgogala.freehostia.com
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> Niall Litchfield
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