Re: OT: Dealing with incompetent DBA's
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:53:10 -0600
Message-ID: <56EFFCC6.8020308_at_gmail.com>
Sure. Real DBA vs Paper DBA vs Developer DBA vs Application DBA vs Oracle DBA vs Oracle XE DBA vs SQL Server DBA vs MySQL DBA vs ...
The DBA world is so big that NO ONE knows everything. And even the people who are super competent are constantly learning things, even ignoring the almost daily changes in the industry and the environment.
But the problem expressed by the OP is not related to being a DBA. It is a problem encountered by all sorts of people in all sorts of professions. One beautiful example is Edison vs Tesla.
The real question is: how to handle the situation. And that involves a skill set completely different than dealing with computers.
Part of the skill set is "knowing and dealing with yourself".
/Hans
On 21/03/2016 7:33 AM, Juan Carlos Reyes Pacheco wrote:
> I'm not really a dba, I'm more a developer dba, and the difference
> between me a real dba is the knowledge of the little details.
> Like:
> knowledge patching problems and solutions, this is t he knowledge of
> problems in different modules of the database and how to solve them.
> knowledge of tools and techniques to make analysis of indexes and
> block problems.
> Really undestanding of concepts, like how to gather statistics and
> configure the optimizer, and how they changed from oralce 9i to 12c.
>
> I think you can take them an exame, if they are dbas like me, only by
> certification and by a long but not deep experiences in complex
> database problems, they will not pass.
> think in what you didn't learn through certification.
> :)
>
> 2016-03-21 9:05 GMT-04:00 Hans Forbrich <fuzzy.graybeard_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:fuzzy.graybeard_at_gmail.com>>:
>
> Most of the recommendations will focus on 'exposing the other' or
> 'getting even'. If that works for your personality, fine.
> Realize however, depending on the other person's personality and
> influence, that could backfire.
>
> Three other approaches: improve your own visibility; remove
> yourself from the situation; live with it.
>
> Define the problem:
> - is it the other person's incompetence (realizing that WILL catch
> up to them eventually);
> - is it the lack of recognition for your competence;
> - is it your expectations;
> - something else?
>
> Depending on the problem definition, sticking around and trying to
> resolve this might not be in your best interest. I've seen too
> many people end up nearing breakdown because of the stress.
>
> If this is in a work situation, then consider having a discussion
> with your manager or with HR or with the company's Employee
> Assistance Program rep (if any), and asking how it can be handled.
>
> /Hans
>
>
> On 19/03/2016 9:25 AM, Imtiaz Merchant wrote:
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> Looking for advice on how to deal with incompetent DBA's hiding
>> behind your own well-demonstrated skills and abilities. These
>> folks are never required to demonstrate their "skills" hence are
>> able to go around bragging what they "know and can do". People
>> always look up to me to get the job done, yet recognize these
>> same incompetent folks in the same class as myself, that hurts.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any feedback / advice.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> IM
>
>
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