Re: Extended RAC on SE

​Finding single-socket servers is indeed tricky!​

We have bought many servers from broadberry in the UK, they allow us to have SSD's, lsi controllers and 4hr hardware support, at a reasonable cost, they do some single socket servers

eg

http://www.broadberry.co.uk/superservers-supermicro-servers/as-1012a-m73rf

Full spec :

http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1u/1018/sys-1018gr-t.cfm

I just configured one

E5-2699 v3 Intel 18 Core Xeon 2.3GHz 45Mb Cache 145 Watts 6x 800GB Intel SSD S3500 DataCentre SERIES 2.5IN SATA3 MLC LSI MegaRAID 9380-4i4e 12Gb/s SAS/SATA RAID Controller, 1Gb DDR4 Cache, with Internal & External Ports
10GbE Dual-Port SFP+ (Direct Attached) Server Adapter - Intel E10G42BTDA 1st Year 24/7 Support - Up to 4 hours after submission of ticket, up to 5 incidents per year

£9,618.81 Ex. VAT

The E5-2699 v3 Intel 18 Core is a single chip processor, so my understanding has always been it only needs one license, but I am no licensing expert!

From http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/sig-070616.pdf

When licensing Oracle programs with Standard Edition One or Standard Edition in the product name, a processor is counted equivalent to an occupied socket; however, in the case of multi-chip modules, each chip in the multi-chip module is counted as one occupied socket.

But as Alfredo and Svetoslav have said a change in licensing might make this a pointless exercise.

Oh well!

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Brinsmead <mark.brinsmead_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> This is true. However, finding single-socket servers can be something of
> a challenge.
>
> The example cited seems to work -- unless that 18-core processor is
> implemented as a multi-chip-module ;-) -- but the majority of servers these
> days are equipped with at least two sockets. You'll also need to make
> certain your single socket server has enough network interfaces.
>
> I don't know whether Oracle ever removed the language about multi-chip
> modules from the OLSA. If they haven't though, it (still) makes license
> management with SE very tricky.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Tom Dale <tom.dale_at_fivium.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> As I read it you can 4 nodes,
>>
>>
>> https://support.oracle.com/epmos/faces/DocumentDisplay?_afrLoop=358910255816631&id=220970.1&_adf.ctrl-state=znnb3zko4_57#A5750
>>
>> Oracle Database Standard Edition can only be licensed on servers that
>> have a maximum capacity of 4 sockets. If licensing by Named User Plus, the
>> minimum is 5 Named User Plus licenses. Oracle Database Standard Edition,
>> when used with Oracle Real Application Clusters, may only be licensed on a
>> single cluster of servers supporting up to a total maximum capacity of 4
>> sockets.
>>
>> *NOTE: This means that the server capacity must meet the restriction even
>> if the sockets are empty, since they count towards capacity.*
>>
>> So if you have 4 single *socket* servers
>>
>> eg you could have a single 18 core intel 2600 v3 with 512gb of ram in -
>>
>> http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/1018/SYS-1018R-WC0R.cfm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Fernando Andrade <correo_at_fjandrade.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks _at_Joe
>>> The answer was in the referenced doc. 220970.1
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Sweetser, Joe <JSweetser_at_icat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Check out Doc ID 220970.1 on MOS/metalink (old school J ).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Short answer is yes but there are a few restrictions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hth,
>>>>
>>>> -joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:
>>>> oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Fernando Andrade
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:23 PM
>>>> *To:* Oracle-L Group <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Extended RAC on SE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi I recieved an extrange request for a client.
>>>>
>>>> He wants a extended RAC on SE, I have found this reference googling:
>>>>
>>>> http://isu.ifmo.ru/docs/doc111/license.111/b28287/editions.htm
>>>>
>>>> "Extended or stretch clusters are not supported with Standard Edition
>>>> and Oracle RAC. An Extended or stretch cluster is defined as "A cluster
>>>> where all nodes are not located in the same room"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I havent found this paragraph in the documentation provided by Oracle
>>>> nor in 11.1, 11.2 or 12.1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any one with more information? Thanks
>>>>
>>>> FJA
>>>>
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>>
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