Re: Extended RAC on SE

From: Svetoslav Gyurov <softice_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:16:23 +0100
Message-ID: <CAKA5CbLJhQPkZfhUd=pkOygHUeu07YrXAZ3+uD8okVJrRQCtyg_at_mail.gmail.com>



Indeed, there was similar information in note 2027072.1 which quickly disappeared and also had the following:

Standard Edition (SE) and Standard Edition One (SE1) are replaced by Standard Edition 2.

Customers running SE or SE1 will need to migrate their licenses to SE2 to be able to upgrade to 12.1.0.2. Note 2027072.1

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Alfredo Abate <alfredo.abate_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> There has been recent talk (can't remember if it's for certain yet) that
> in 12c Standard Edition, Oracle may decide to lower the number of sockets
> allowed for SE from 4 to 2. I would suspect with the increasing number of
> cores on a single chip (socket) you could easily have a multi-node RAC
> cluster with a decent amount of computing power. Intel has server level
> chips with 16 and 18 cores. A 4 node cluster with 1 socket each will give
> you >64 cores which is not too shabby. :)
>
> I personally created a SE cluster for the e-commerce site at my old
> employer because we didn't (at the time) need any of the EE options and
> already owned the SE licenses. It's actually a pretty good and robust
> solution.
>
> Alfredo
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yup. Looks like it. I must be Getting old.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 4:05 AM, Tom Dale <tom.dale_at_fivium.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> As I read it you can 4 nodes,
>>
>>
>> https://support.oracle.com/epmos/faces/DocumentDisplay?_afrLoop=358910255816631&id=220970.1&_adf.ctrl-state=znnb3zko4_57#A5750
>>
>> Oracle Database Standard Edition can only be licensed on servers that
>> have a maximum capacity of 4 sockets. If licensing by Named User Plus, the
>> minimum is 5 Named User Plus licenses. Oracle Database Standard Edition,
>> when used with Oracle Real Application Clusters, may only be licensed on a
>> single cluster of servers supporting up to a total maximum capacity of 4
>> sockets.
>>
>> *NOTE: This means that the server capacity must meet the restriction even
>> if the sockets are empty, since they count towards capacity.*
>>
>> So if you have 4 single *socket* servers
>>
>> eg you could have a single 18 core intel 2600 v3 with 512gb of ram in -
>>
>> http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/1018/SYS-1018R-WC0R.cfm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Fernando Andrade <correo_at_fjandrade.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks _at_Joe
>>> The answer was in the referenced doc. 220970.1
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Sweetser, Joe <JSweetser_at_icat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Check out Doc ID 220970.1 on MOS/metalink (old school J ).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Short answer is yes but there are a few restrictions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hth,
>>>>
>>>> -joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:
>>>> oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Fernando Andrade
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:23 PM
>>>> *To:* Oracle-L Group <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Extended RAC on SE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi I recieved an extrange request for a client.
>>>>
>>>> He wants a extended RAC on SE, I have found this reference googling:
>>>>
>>>> http://isu.ifmo.ru/docs/doc111/license.111/b28287/editions.htm
>>>>
>>>> "Extended or stretch clusters are not supported with Standard Edition
>>>> and Oracle RAC. An Extended or stretch cluster is defined as "A cluster
>>>> where all nodes are not located in the same room"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I havent found this paragraph in the documentation provided by Oracle
>>>> nor in 11.1, 11.2 or 12.1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any one with more information? Thanks
>>>>
>>>> FJA
>>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>

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