RE: Enterprise Manager Restricted Use License

From: Pete Sharman <pete.sharman_at_oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:29:35 +1000
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Man, I take a day off from the list and you guys go crazy! ;)  

This is your point of confusion – “we didn't point it out to them that this was our EM server”. If LMS didn’t realize that, then their perspective is perfectly reasonable (assuming that the license model is perfectly reasonable, of course!). As others have pointed out, base licensing is free for the OMS/OMR until you feel the need for HA. Of course, for some functionality against TARGETS you will need specific pack licenses, but not for the OMS/OMR.  

One other point – while you CAN use the same database for your RMAN catalog and the OMR, I would not recommend that unless you’re short of hardware. The usages of the two are completely different. Think of it in a similar manner (though not to the same extent of course) as putting together an OLTP and a DW database. You would tune them differently – exactly the same as you would for the RMAN catalog and the OMR.  

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From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Courtney Llamas Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 11:39 PM
To: christopherdtaylor1994_at_gmail.com; Bobby Curtis Cc: Niall Litchfield; oracle-l_at_freelists.org Subject: RE: Enterprise Manager Restricted Use License  

Chris –  

I work in the EM team, and I’ve never heard of this… though I’m far removed from sales! I’ve reached out to mgmt to confirm.    

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From: Chris Taylor [mailto:christopherdtaylor1994_at_gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:27 AM
To: Bobby Curtis
Cc: Niall Litchfield; oracle-l_at_freelists.org <mailto:oracle-l_at_freelists.org> 
Subject: Re: Enterprise Manager Restricted Use License

 

They didn't point it out specifically, but what they did do is include it in the audit findings as being short the number of licenses required (along with several other servers).

I think this was an error on their part - and maybe ours too that we didn't point it out to them that this was our EM server.

 

Chris

 

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Bobby Curtis <curtisbl_at_gmail.com <mailto:curtisbl_at_gmail.com> > wrote:

Chris,

 

Are you positive that nothing other than OMR and/or RMAN catalog is running in that database?  It seems odd that Oracle LMS would care about the size of the physical hardware with an OMR or OMS.

 

Bobby

 

 

On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Chris Taylor <christopherdtaylor1994_at_gmail.com <mailto:christopherdtaylor1994_at_gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Niall - I totally agree - my client just happens to be running their EM environment on a 16 cpu-core server and Oracle LMS flagged it as non-compliant even though OMS is definitely the only thing running on it.  They're saying we need either an 16 proc license or 200 named users.

 

Chris

 

 

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield_at_gmail.com <mailto:niall.litchfield_at_gmail.com> > wrote:

That's correct. I've yet to see a requirement for a huge EM DB server though.  

 

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Chris Taylor <christopherdtaylor1994_at_gmail.com <mailto:christopherdtaylor1994_at_gmail.com> > wrote:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong - for the Enterprise Manager restricted use license listed below, we can run a single-instance Oracle db on any size server we desire correct?  The server that houses the db and EM components doesn't have to be a certain size, right?  

 

Or is there some limitations to the number of CPUs etc?

 


Enterprise Manager Restricted-use License


*         Enterprise Manager includes a restricted-use license of the Oracle Database for use as the Oracle Management Repository only.

Additional database options or additional servers for disaster recovery require separate licensing. Customers receive one single-instance database with the Grid Control, or RMAN, repository. To protect the repository with Data Guard, customers need to purchase a license for the standby site. To protect the repository with Oracle Real Application Clusters, customers must license the second node for the database, and both nodes require an Oracle Real Application Clusters license.

*         Use of Oracle WebLogic Server with Oracle Enterprise Manager is restricted to the servlet functionality without clustering for the Oracle Management Server (OMS).

https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11857_01/license.111/e11987/overview.htm





 

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