Re: To Be Build Document

From: Jeremy Schneider <jeremy.schneider_at_ardentperf.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:37:24 -0500
Message-ID: <CA+fnDAYp-MS=i+txX3NebS3FMuCyT8e2vXsn4V_4zB+aG=Lvjw_at_mail.gmail.com>

Tim is right however that it's sketchy to ask outright for a specific confidential document when the author has refused to share directly. A better way to phrase the question might be this (I've often thought of asking this question too):

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I work for a regional consulting shop and one of our customers has asked us to help them prepare for a SuperCluster deployment. The process of working with this customer has gotten me thinking...

1. For those who have purchased or are purchasing any kind of SuperCluster deployment workshop: what material is important to you to be included in a workshop of this nature? What would you expect/desire a vendor like us to offer in order to be competitive? Is there anything you feel is *missing* from most workshops currently on the market?
2. If anyone out there has organized similar workshops and is willing to collaborate - can we compare notes?

We think very highly of [somecompany ACS]'s workshop and curriculum but they have not been willing to collaborate with us. (Perhaps not surprising.) Nonetheless, this workshop does provide something of a starting point as many customers are familiar with it.

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Also, George, if your customer is specifically asking you to cover "the same scope as [somecompany ACS]" then they should probably provide the scope to you. They can go directly to [somecompany ACS] and ask for a sample Table of Contents or scope; if they are truly a potential customer then [somecompany ACS] may provide it directly to them. The actual documents may be NDA, but they should still be able to come to you and give you an idea what they specifically need so you can give a quote.

-J

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On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Jeremy Schneider
<jeremy.schneider_at_ardentperf.com> wrote:


> George, you're certainly not unethical for asking.  I don't have this

> particular doc, but I've got other "documents" that I provided for

> clients in my freelance consulting days -- it would be routine to send

> a sample TOC (demonstrating scope) to a potential client and something

> similar could be provided for George (certainly by a helpful peer, in

> certain circumstances by a client). Not all material is confidential;

> some companies will give an idea of scope of specific services right

> on their website. Since my documents are my own material that I

> developed while I was freelancing, I own the IP on them.  Yeah the

> "competitive" thing to do would be to never share anything at all...

> but we're just talking about scope here, and I'm not in the business

> currently, and there are people who might help out other small shops

> in a marketplace that's dominated by big ones.

>

> Wish I could help in this particular case - unfortunately I don't have

> any experience with SuperCluster.

>

> -Jeremy

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> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:03 AM, George <georgelza_at_gmail.com> wrote:

>> Hi Tim

>>

>> Never be it said can't be shot for asking.

>>

>> I never implied a employee shares something that their upline manager has

>> not approved.

>>

>> I would have proposed that if anyone was willing to share that they email it

>> to me directly, not to the entire group, since there might be competitive IP

>> that they don't want to make available to someone locally to them, would be

>> more than willing to share with anyone willing to discuss my location and

>> clients market to make sure there is no Conflict of interest.

>>

>> Guess I've just been called unethical.

>>

>> If anyone is willing, contact me directly, think we might want to close this

>> subject here.

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