Re: To Be Build Document

Never be it said can't be shot for asking.

I never implied a employee shares something that their upline manager has not approved.

I would have proposed that if anyone was willing to share that they email it to me directly, not to the entire group, since there might be competitive IP that they don't want to make available to someone locally to them, would be more than willing to share with anyone willing to discuss my location and clients market to make sure there is no Conflict of interest.

Guess I've just been called unethical.

If anyone is willing, contact me directly, think we might want to close this subject here.

G

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Tim Gorman <tim_at_evdbt.com> wrote:

> Any employer would not look favorably on any employee who distributes a
> purchased work product. Any employee who shares this is not sharing their
> own property, but that of their employer.
>
> If ACS (whomever they are) is not willing to share their rough document,
> then that should be the end of the story. Period. Full stop. It is
> clearly not ethical to try to obtain it by other circuitious means.
>
> Rather than soliciting a free copy of another's work, why don't you
> instead share what you've compiled so far, ask the list to critique it, and
> help you improve it?
>
> You'll learn more and might help others on this list learn as well.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/10/15 2:12, George wrote:
>
> Hi tim
>
> Correct, this is normally a paid for document from ACS, in this case
> however the client contracted my employer to do this piece of work for
> them, but expanded the scope of the deliverable significantly.
>
> As expected ACS is not willing to share their rough document...
>
> Why I'm hoping that a client that has paid for it, who owns the output
> now is willing to share (of course after removing their information, if
> they want to),
>
> I just want to make sure I cover the same bases at min the same detail
> level, and then include the additional information requested by the
> customer,
>
> G
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Tim Gorman <tim_at_evdbt.com> wrote:
>
>> George,
>>
>> If this document is free, then perhaps you should contact ACS themselves,
>> whomever they might be, to obtain it?
>>
>> If it is not free, then it would almost certainly be a violation of their
>> contract and their own company rules for any employee to share it with you
>> without written permission. At least, that is the way most companies
>> conduct professional services.
>>
>> Please forgive me if I misunderstood what you were requesting?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/15 21:26, George wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Hope someone can assist.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a To Be build document as pre pared by ACS after their
>>> workshops with a client, before they deploy a SuperCluster.
>>>
>>> I'm busy with a similar document and want to ensure my document covers
>>> at min the same information so that the next phase can happen without any
>>> information missing, which will then have to be collected on very short
>>> notice.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> G
>>>
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you are committed to educate yourself to the total risk in any activity!

Once informed & totally aware of the risk,
every fool has the right to kill or injure themselves as they see fit!

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