Re: EM access to developers
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:53:16 -0500
Message-ID: <54CBFD4C.9020508_at_yahoo.com>
Hi Pete,
I beg to differ. EM is a DB management tool and I cannot fathom what would developers do with it? SQL plans are available from SQL Developer. Developers should use development tools, DBA should use management tools. It's not us and them, it's a division of labor. I doubt that developers would be interested in how long did the backup run or how many log switches are generated during the peek time business hours. So, it's us using EM and them using SQL Developer and Eclipse. That's just the natural order of things.
On 01/30/2015 02:28 PM, Peter Sharman wrote:
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> Quick answer: Not enough. J
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> As Courtney mentioned, a lot more is possible more easily with EM12c
> than in previous releases. We really should be getting away from the
> “us versus them” mentality we’ve had for way too long between DBA’s
> and developers. As DBA’s, give the developers access so they can do
> their job properly but in a secured manner. As developers, use the
> tools that have been provided to understand and resolve your issues.
>
> Easy, right? ;)
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> Pete
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> *From:*kyle Hailey [mailto:kylelf_at_gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:15 AM
> *To:* ORACLE-L
> *Subject:* EM access to developers
>
> Quick poll : how many folks give developers logins to EM?
>
> Last I was talking to people about 4 years ago no one was doing that.
> Have times changed?
>
> I know EM Express looks perfect for developers but I'm asking about
> access to regular EM.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kyle Hailey
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> http://kylehailey.com
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