Re: Really strange performance issue

From: Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:07:36 -0500
Message-Id: <386976D2-9AB8-4979-A661-B5938B067626_at_gmail.com>



They list two bugs, 13454409 and 16837274.

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> On Oct 31, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Jonathan Lewis <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> If Oracle gave you a visible bug number I'd be interested to see what it was.
> 
> 
>    
> Regards
> Jonathan Lewis
> http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com
> _at_jloracle 
> From: Andrew Kerber [andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com]
> Sent: 31 October 2014 12:37
> To: Jonathan Lewis
> Cc: oracle-l
> Subject: Re: Really strange performance issue
> 
> Jonathan - you are correct on the oddities, but there is no unique constraint.  The row is unique however, and there are only about 30 rows in the table.  I think I have any typos corrected below.
> 
> Oracle support says it is a bug, no patch available yet, and the work around is to set _optimizer_use_feedback=false.  Now I need to figure out the ramifications of doing that.
> 
> 

>> SELECT 'Data4',
>> wdata.created,
>> wdata.value2
>> FROM wdata, wbedata
>> WHERE wbedata.my_number = '888888'
>> AND (wdata.created <= (select trim(value_string) from other.parm_value where job_type = 'D TEST' and parm_type = 'B END') || '-23.59.59.999999'
>> AND (wdata.created >= (select trim(value_string) from other.parm_value where job_type = 'D TEST' and parm_type = 'B START') || '-23.59.59.999999'))
>> AND (wdata.created = wbedata.created)
>> AND (wdata.value2 = wbedata.value2)
>> AND (wdata.value3 = wbedata.value3)
>> ORDER BY wdata.created;
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Oct 31, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Jonathan Lewis <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 

>>
>>
>> I'm assuming, by the way, that any oddities in the sample code are just the result of trying to edit out the confidential stuff.
>>
>> In particular: I've asssumed that there's a unique constraint on (job_type, parm_type) so that the optimizer can "know" that there's only a single possible value; and I've assumed that the subquery is written to supply the column type and hasn't thrown in another obfuscating factor by causing column conversion.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Jonathan Lewis
>> http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com
>> _at_jloracle
>> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] on behalf of Jonathan Lewis [jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk]
>> Sent: 31 October 2014 08:57
>> To: Andrew Kerber; Mark W. Farnham
>> Cc: Howard Latham; oracle-l
>> Subject: RE: Really strange performance issue
>>
>>
>> Looking at the code, I think Sayan's comment is the relevant one.
>>
>> Waving my hands and guessing WILDLY - but I suspect I could create a data set where this happens:
>>
>> The optimizer is probably handling your subqueries as "unknown constant", which gives you a range scan on unknown values which gives the optimizer a guess of 0.25% - hence the application of cardinality feedback.
>> On the first pass the optimizer drives off the created date - and discovers that it does a lot more work than expected (more rows), so on the second pass it reverses the join, which turns out to be a bad idea because the optimizer's estimated cardinality of '88888' (which doesn't get modified by the first pass) is badly wrong and/or the chosen access path back into wdata is much less efficient than expected.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Jonathan Lewis
>> http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com
>> _at_jloracle
>> From: Andrew Kerber [andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com]
>> Sent: 31 October 2014 01:32
>> To: Mark W. Farnham
>> Cc: Jonathan Lewis; Howard Latham; oracle-l
>> Subject: Re: Really strange performance issue
>>
>> Below is a heavily redacted version of the query, all columns names and values changed,as I said it is pretty straightforward,
>>
>> SELECT 'Data4',
>> wdata.created,
>> wdata.value2
>> FROM wdata, wbedata
>> WHERE wbedata.my_number = '888888'
>> AND (wdata.created <= (select trim(value_string) from other.parm_value where job_type = 'D TEST' and parm_type = 'B END') || '-23.59.59.999999'
>> AND (wdata.created >= (select trim(value_string) from other.parm_value where job_type = 'D TEST' and parm_type = 'B START') || '-23.59.59.999999'))
>> AND (wdata.created = wbedata.created)
>> AND (wdata.value2 = wbedata.value2)
>> AND (wdata.value3 = wbedata.value3)
>> ORDER BY wdata.created;
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Mark W. Farnham <mwf_at_rsiz.com> wrote:
>>> +42
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Lewis
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:00 PM
>>> To: andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com; Howard Latham
>>> Cc: oracle-l
>>> Subject: RE: Really strange performance issue
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Although we generally expect cardinality feedback to result in better plans
>>> it's possible that a change in plan could change the order in which the data
>>> driving (e.g.) a scalar subquery is accessed, increasing the number of times
>>> a subquery is executed without changing the number of rows returned in the
>>> rowsource. If by "embedded select" you actually mean a scalar subquery it's
>>> possible that the main query does look more efficient to the optimizer, but
>>> the scalar subquery runs far more time.  Easy to detect if you enable
>>> rowsource execution statistics (e.g. add hint gather_plan_statistics) and
>>> use the 'allstats last' format option with dbms_xplan.display_cursor().
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Jonathan Lewis
>>> http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com
>>> _at_jloracle
>>> 
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] on
>>> behalf of Andrew Kerber [andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 30 October 2014 14:51
>>> To: Howard Latham
>>> Cc: oracle-l
>>> Subject: Re: Really strange performance issue
>>> 
>>> I'll have to see if I can remove identifying information, but there is
>>> really nothing special about it, basically a two table join with a couple of
>>> embedded selects to get a date range.  The plan is the same in both cases.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> > On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Howard Latham <howard.latham_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Any chance of seeing the Query please?
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