Re: New policy on Oracle Certifications
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:15:50 -0400
Message-ID: <CAFQ5ACKHt2f2do1YS0FMFDSbh8w4nhQ3Hu8WE6SZQzWMJZ1Fng_at_mail.gmail.com>
I give some credence to OCM, but that's all. OCP and OCA, not so much.... On Oct 10, 2014 10:07 AM, "Niall Litchfield" <niall.litchfield_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> They do indeed. But the 12c database certification has its own page
> https://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=653&get_params=p_id:248
> complete with upgrade tab and steps required to upgrade. The two docs are
> different for the really old exams (below 9). The chap who blogged the link
> today, also blogged the one exam upgrade path back in April.
> https://blogs.oracle.com/certification/entry/0856_29
>
> As you might have guessed my database OCP is really old, it has never been
> worth my while the cost in time and money to cram for another multiple
> choice exam (and the exam that I would value based on descriptions of the
> tests - the master exam - has never been valued by the job market). I do
> have recent experience of certification (for EM) and it hasn't changed my
> view of the value of the testing much. Would I pay the 220 or so dollars a
> single exam upgrade would cost me, possibly. I certainly wouldn't pay 500
> dollars to do it.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Hans Forbrich <fuzzy.graybeard_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> They give a lot more detail, as well as an example using 9i, at
>> https://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=770
>>
>> For me, aging a cert is nothing more than meaningless admin.
>>
>> If the cert is tied to a version of the product, and the product ages out
>> (eg: Red hat 4, Oracle DB 9i) then the associated cert is not completely
>> relevant to most of the industry anyway. However, it is likely the person
>> earning the cert has not lost whatever knowledge and the proficiency
>> identified by the cert has not technically changed ... although using that
>> proficiency may be rusty.
>>
>> The industry in general would be better off
>> generating/ensuring/demonstrating high value of certification, and getting
>> customers to understand that value - at which time, the link between cert
>> and version becomes intrinsically obvious.
>>
>> /Hans
>>
>> On 10/10/2014 7:33 AM, Niall Litchfield wrote:
>>
>> It would be nice to know what you need to do to upgrade as well. Yes
>> there's a link to the recertification requirements, via the usual
>> education.oracle.com go to this page to find a link to this page to .. .
>> When you get to the pdf though, it suggests that for your 9.2 example the
>> upgrade path is 2 exams and therefore 2 fees. If however you go through the
>> 12c certification upgrade tab, you only need one exam to upgrade, this was
>> in a press release when 12c came out. It would be nice if the story could
>> be straight (and the recertification was a single step).
>>
>> I'm all in favour of what real professions call CPD
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuing_professional_development>. I'm
>> not sold on continual re-certification, nor am I convinced that a multiple
>> choice test reasonably measures how current I am with industry trends and
>> best practices.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Niall Litchfield
> Oracle DBA
> http://www.orawin.info
>
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