RE: New policy on Oracle Certifications

From: Freeman, Donald G. CTR (ABL) <"Freeman,>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:41:03 +0000
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If you are employed and your employer is happy it doesn't do anything for you. If it’s a condition of getting the job then it’s a must have. My employer pays my costs for upgrades and additional certification which are really trivial compared to the salary I receive for the job I have. All I have to do is invest the time. I can't recall a time when something I learned during my certification study directly helped me solve a problem or implement something. It has been beneficial many times when engaged in meetings or planning sessions to solve a problem when I can say, "Oracle does that..."

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I will play devil's advocate. I'm only certified on 9i but I touch 11gR2 these days. So does it make sense for me to be certified that I should upgrade to a supported release?

I probably won't decertify but then again this just might be the catalyst to make me do so if there ever was. Yeah, and it costs money too.

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On Oct 10, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Ric Van Dyke <ric.van.dyke_at_hotsos.com> wrote:

        That is the reason it makes sense. The whole reason these “certification programs” exist is to make money for the respective companies. Most of these certifications just mean some one was able to pass a test on a given day. It hardly guarantees any sort of proficiency in the said topic. I’ve interviewed folks with DBA certification that couldn’t coherently tell me what the difference was between MOUNT and NOMOUNT.          

        Certifications look cool on a resume (CV) but work experience is a much better guide on some ones ability to perform a job.          

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	How does this make sense, except for money making? DBA certification includes the version on which you're certified. Recertification is not really "re" anything, as you are forced to upgrade to a current version. This does not ensure or even refresh expertise on retired systems, it merely ensures a revenue stream for Oracle - not unlike the MCSE programs...
	
	

	On 10/10/14 05:19, Bobby Curtis wrote:

		Makes sense; however, I think this is a money maker for Oracle as well.   

		 

		 

		Bobby Curtis, MBA
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		On Oct 9, 2014, at 15:11, Hans Forbrich <fuzzy.graybeard_at_gmail.com> wrote:

		
		
		

		FYI - from https://blogs.oracle.com/certification/entry/1055_01
		
		"The Oracle Certification Program is implementing a recertification requirement for our Oracle Database Administration credentials."
		
		Just giving people a heads-up ...
		/Hans

		 

	 

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