Re: Definition of Top Class DBA
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 12:33:55 -0400
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Everyone has good points on this topic, I’ll just add my 2 cents...
I don’t think titles amount to a hill-of-beans at times; many people chase titles trying to get a head, I’ll admit I was one until a few years ago when I met some really cool people in the Oracle community. A title like “World-class DBA” is just someone in management or HR trying to find a resource. I see it all the time in emails from recruiters. Additionally, I have this discussion with my mother, of all people, who is an Senior HR Specialist. She has no clue what I do for a living or what the technology is; absolutely clueless at times. Management and HR just want to fill a seat to keep the business going. Using catchy position titles is one way they do that.
If you find the position interesting from looking at the details and it seems like something you want to do, then apply and go after it. If you don’t live up to the standards outlined for the job announcement set forth by management or HR then you at least, as Seth points out, have a networking opportunity. If you make it into the position, you at least have a chance to prove yourself. Don’t let meaningless titles from people who don’t know our industry stop you from moving forward. In the end, what I think a lot of people define as “Top Class DBA” or “World Class DBA” is derived from their perception of the person they are talking to. Don’t let someone’s perception of you keep you for achieving your goals!
Just my 2 cents..
Bobby Curtis
curtisbl_at_gmail.com
http://about.me/dbasolved
On Sep 4, 2014, at 11:20, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> When I see that kind of description (as opposed to senior DBA or just specifying years of experience), I immediately suspect that the job requirements were written by HR rather than the manager who is looking for the DBA.
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> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Dimensional DBA <dimensional.dba_at_comcast.net> wrote:
> I would agree with Seth as in not worrying so much about the management fluff or extra phrasology when you go to apply for a job, but you should be ready to answer that question if they listed it as a requirement of what makes you think you are a “World Class DBA?”
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> I have had some interviewers actually go down the list of skills on the sheet they published and went through every point including those added management phrases…
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> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Seth Miller
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> Those terms are written by management, HR or more likely, whomever they hired (that wouldn't know a database if it slapped them in the face) to find candidates. Don't let meaningless nomenclature influence your opinion and most importantly, don't let anything about a job posting prevent you from applying. If you are way under-qualified for a position and you manage to get an interview, the very worst thing that could happen is you get an hour of networking, invaluable interviewing practice and finding out exactly what that company is really looking for.
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> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Kumar Madduri <ksmadduri_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> In several job postings, key words like 'Top Class DBA', 'World Class DBA' and other such adjectives are used. While every organization wants those kind of DBAs, how do you define it or measure it.
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> I may be a 'Top Class DBA' at my place but 'Lowly DBA' for some other org or some other DBAs and vice versa (I could be lowly dba where I am but could be top class where I would get a job).
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> I think words like 'Top Class DBA' intimidates me (personally)..
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> I am probably opening a pandora's box here but wanted to get the opinion of elite members of this group.
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