Re: oem 12c on hp-ux pa-risc 11.11

I have had to use two OEM's before for the same reason as yours at a customer site.

However, there were still a few unsupported (by em12c) database versions on certified host platforms where I used Metric Extensions<http://maazanjum.com/2013/12/09/a-useful-metric-extension-in-em12c-for-unsupported-oracle-database-versions/>from a host perspective to monitor their status and tablespace usage. You "could" modify the script in my post that checks the instance status via a tnsnames alias instead of a local connection. Looking back at the customer's configuration, I ended up installing the 12c agent on the 11.11 platform and deployed the aforementioned Metric Extension. Though, I don't think this is supported.

Likewise, you could set up a "ping" and "df" Metric Extension to the 11.11 host from, let's say, the EM host target.

I think Tim is correct, and that I have heard the same from someone else as well. Sadly, I do not have any documentation for it :(

Cheers,
Maaz

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Tim Hall <tim_at_oracle-base.com> wrote:

> I just read that back and what I was saying was unclear.
>
> So we had a 12c agent on box A monitoring an instance on box B...
>
> As I said, long time ago and I didn't write down what I did, so it
> officially does not exist. :)
>
> Cheers
>
> Tim...
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Tim Hall <tim_at_oracle-base.com> wrote:
>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it possible for an agent to monitor
>> some aspects of a remote system? I'm sure we did this under 12c once for an
>> old system that had not been upgraded yet. It was a while ago and they
>> system has been upgraded now, so I don't have anything to refer back to, so
>> my memory could be failing me... :)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Tim...
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Peter Sharman <pete.sharman_at_oracle.com>wrote:
>>
>>> No it will not work. Pre-12c agents cannot communicate with a 12c OMS.
>>>
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>>> *From:* max scalf [mailto:oracle.blog3_at_gmail.com]
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>>> *Subject:* oem 12c on hp-ux pa-risc 11.11
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello List,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a question and maybe some of you guys are already doing this(or
>>> not). We have some old HP-UX PA Risc(11.11) and i want them monitored with
>>> our new OEM 12c(12.1.0.3). Looking at the certification matrix looks like
>>> 11.11 is not supported with the 12c agent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have one thing i have done in the past, where i wanted to monitor our
>>> old pa-risc(11.11) box from Grid control version 11.1.0.7. I was unable to
>>> deploy 11g agent as well(due to support issue, pa-risc 11g agent only
>>> supported pa-risc 11.23 and 11.31). So as a worked around I deployed
>>> 10.2.0.5 agent on that old pa-risc 11.11 box and got it connected to 11g
>>> grid control.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Most of these old box run DB version 10.2.0.4 or 10.2.0.5. I am not
>>> sure if i can still do this with OEM 12c? where i can either re-deploy(or
>>> point them to 12c OEM) 10.2.0.5 agent on these old 11.11 box. Obviously i
>>> am sure you guys are probably asking why are you asking here, why not just
>>> try it and find out yourself as you have already done this before.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's were i am stuck. Our team/Management do not want me to do that
>>> and they are okay with using 2 different OEM(11g grid of all these old box
>>> and 12c for newer version). I think if we can make this work, then we do
>>> not have to deal with 2 different OEM versions and everything will be under
>>> one umbrella.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just wanted to post this out here and see what people have to say, so
>>> at the least i can point our team/management to right direction.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is anyone monitoring there old hp-ux pa-risc 11.11 box with OEM 12c, if
>>> so what are you doing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any pointers would be appreciated.
>>>
>>
>>
>

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