Re: Quick and Dirty Grid Control

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Mark W. Farnham <mwf_at_rsiz.com> wrote:

> And Niall's point about agents is well taken. An average of 120 databases
> per server indicates there is probably room for some useful consolidation
> and deadwood removal.
>
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> Subject: RE: Quick and Dirty Grid Control
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> Even if there are network secure fences between some of the five Solaris
> servers, it seems like at most you would need to set up 5 independent grid
> controls.
>
> I mention secure fences only because of your email address and the
> statement
> that discovery was alleged to have previously failed.
>
> In terms of counting things for humans to manage, 600 is error prone simply
> by head count. Five seems a lot more reasonable and if there are security
> ring threshold issues one each may be the way to go. If you have a machine
> that hosts databases of less stringent availability requirements, having a
> pioneer run for a while after a raft of patches before you do the more
> critical systems may also be useful.
>
> mwf
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> Subject: Re: Quick and Dirty Grid Control
>
> 600 databases are not that many from a grid control or cloud control
> perspective . I'm wondering why the comment was made . if you have ovm
> running you can down the EM templates and run a discovery . I have had over
> 1200 databases being monitored usif em11g grid control where the oms and
> repo was running on a tiny SPARC v880 with not many issues
>
> Fuad
>
>
> > On May 2, 2014, at 8:28, "Freeman, Donald G. CTR (ABL)"
> <donald.freeman.ctr_at_ablcda.navy.mil> wrote:
> >
> > The place I work doesn't use grid control. They have about 600 active
> > databases in the development regions. We lack hardware infrastructure.
> > All of these databases are mounted on five Solaris 10 Servers. Another
> DBA
> > told me that they previously tried to get Grid Control running but it
> > failed on discovery. It couldn't handle that many objects on a
> > server. That was some time ago.
> >
> > I'm about to get drafted (listening over the wall) to patch this
> > weekend (I'm not on that team) and I'm not really interested in trying
> > to
> patch that
> > many databases manually, at least not twice. Is there a method to
> install
> > grid control in some way that it can handle this situation? Can 12C
> > handle this?
> >
> > I would start doing some reading but I'm afraid somebody is going to
> > walk around the corner in about 5 minutes and give me, "the look."
> > I'm looking for a direction to march in that will fix this going forward.
> >
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