Re: Question re security
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:10:33 +0000
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Going to be fun, as in 11.2 the listener password got deprecated and got desupported in 12c (according to the documentation).
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On do, 2014-01-16 at 11:35 -0500, Patterson, Joel wrote: Not sure about this year, but the last few years, it was insisted to use a password with the listener.
No amount of docs or logic prevailed.
I never know what to expect. Indeed the old faces are out and are replaced with new faces. The new faces are now younger than the old faces… J
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From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of bill thater
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:51 AM
To: Nuno Souto
Cc: Oracle L
Subject: RE: Question re security
I still get questions why I need privs to install Oracle software. My answer is" if you want it installed without privs talk to Oracle, until then, that's what I need" I'm not well liked;-)
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From: Nuno Souto
Sent: 1/16/2014 2:42 AM
Cc: Oracle L
Subject: Re: Question re security
On 16/01/2014 5:49 PM, david_at_databasesecurity.com<mailto:david_at_databasesecurity.com> wrote:
Thanks! Good to see my opinion is shared by someone. The problem is when kids with no experience whatsoever of running IT sites are given free hand in coming up with security strategies and such. I mean, when a network "expert" claims a database is not secure because the listener is not using the usual 1521 port and does not ask for a password upfront, the only comment I can possibly offer is: "go take an Oracle 101 and a network 101 course and AFTER that, let's see if you still think that way".
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Nuno Souto
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>Who here has database servers, app servers, admin and dev workstations,
>each in its own subnet (4 subnets),
>with firewalls between each subnet,
>all inside the company's intranet?
>I'd just like to know why and what security expectations, imperatives,
>constraints/conditions are being addressed/resolved by such a setup?
It depends on what you’re trying to protect. If it’s nuclear launch codes then yes – defence in depth – which this config is a typical example of – is the way to go. If the data is a list of recipes for cupcakes though this would indeed be overkill
:)
Cheers,
David
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