RE: Practice of using chopt to disable database options

From: <Jay.Miller_at_tdameritrade.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 22:13:28 +0000
Message-ID: <0D8F4CAC0F9D3C4AACC63F50FD9957F726572208_at_PRDCTWPEMLMB31.prod-am.ameritrade.com>

From our last audit (about 2 years ago) I can tell you the following:

The actual contract said installed even though most links on the Oracle site will say used.

The people doing the audit would guarantee over the phone that they would only charge for used features but they would not put it in writing

They were eventually able to convince our senior management that we would not be charged so we were able to stop uninstalling unused options before we hit the production databases. We've had some odd behavior on some test databases since then though which I suspect may be related.

Jay Miller

Sr. Oracle Database Administrator

201.369.8355

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From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Nuno Souto Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:46 PM To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Re: Practice of using chopt to disable database options

and Oracle's lawyers assume that DBA_FEATURE_USAGE_STATISTICS is infallible.

It isn't. Here is hoping Oracle will one day clean up this utter mess.

Yes, it is a M.E.S.S.

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Cheers

Nuno Souto

dbvision_at_iinet.net.au<mailto:dbvision_at_iinet.net.au>





On 16/11/2013 11:34 AM, Hans Forbrich wrote:

Prior to upgrading our 10.1 to 11.2, I used MOS 332351.1, 1060023.1,



>> 565773.1, 1449652.1, and 565773.1, plus an SR that I needed to open




>> because




>> those didn't completely remove OLAP.  And the techs still couldn't




>> get it




>> cleaned.  I had to use 2 scripts from 11.2 on our 10.1 DB to finally




>> wipe it




>> where the upgrade wouldn't fail.




>>




> Exactly.




>




> Which is why getting a Support doc that explicitly states we MUST




> install and it is the 'use' that determines license.




>




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