Re: Practice of using chopt to disable database options

From: Kevin Jernigan <kevin.jernigan_at_oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:39:53 +0530
Message-ID: <5285F2F1.3030007_at_oracle.com>

You should review the standard licensing document which is available for each release; the 12cR1 version is here <http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E16655_01/license.121/e17614/toc.htm>, the 11gR2 version is here
<http://www.oracle.com/pls/db112/to_toc?pathname=license.112/e47877/toc.htm>, and the 11gR1 version is here
<http://www.oracle.com/pls/db111/to_toc?pathname=license.111/b28287/toc.htm>.

I don't know if there is a single official document that states how we charge for database options, but maybe the below phrase in the 11gR1 licensing guide at the beginning of chapter 2 is relevant; however, I am not a lawyer, nor am I familiar with the standard licensing agreement a customer agrees to when licensing Oracle Database software, and I'm sure there is language in that agreement that is relevant to the question at hand:

You may not use the options, packs, or products described below without separately purchased licenses. The fact that these options, packs, or products may be included in product CDs or downloads or described in documentation that you receive does not authorize you to use them without purchasing appropriate licenses.

-KJ

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On 11/15/13, 3:31 PM, Peter Gram Miracle A/S wrote:


> Hi Kevin

>

> Very interesting statement : could you please point me to a official 

> Oracle document where this is change of practice is documented, I do 

> license checks and therefore deal with Oracle License Management (LMS) 

> and they are still showing interest in installed and used options.

>

> /Gram

>

>

> Best Regards / Venlig Hilsen

>

> Peter Gram

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> On 15 November 2013 10:48, Kevin Jernigan <kevin.jernigan_at_oracle.com 

> <mailto:kevin.jernigan_at_oracle.com>> wrote:

>

>     My apologies, I was answering based on the current (12c) state of

>     affairs. It was probably different before 11g - but from 11g

>     onwards, for the most part we don't support you not installing the

>     database options, and you are NOT charged based on what you

>     install, since you don't officially have the choice of not

>     installing options...KJ

>

>

>     -- 

>     Kevin Jernigan

>     Senior Director Product Management

>     Advanced Compression, Hybrid Columnar

>     Compression (HCC), Database File System

>     (DBFS), SecureFiles, Database Smart Flash

>     Cache, Total Recall, Database Resource

>     Manager (DBRM), Direct NFS Client (dNFS),

>     Continuous Query Notification (CQN),

>     Index Organized Tables (IOT), Information

>     Lifecycle Management (ILM)

>     (650) 607-0392 (o)

>     (415) 710-8828 (m)

>

>     On 11/15/13, 1:19 PM, oracle_at_dunbar-it.co.uk

>     <mailto:oracle_at_dunbar-it.co.uk> wrote:

>

>         Morning Kevin,

>

>         I've been audited. I've been shown the actual docs that says

>         you must license what you install. I've had to pay.

>

>         With all due respect, I do know what I'm typing about.

>

>         Things might be different at 11g/12c but I was "done" for

>         versions up to and including 10g.

>

>         Those are facts, not one of a set of inconsistent docs.

>

>         It cost us, lots!

>

>         Cheers,

>         Norm

>

>         Sent from my HTC

>

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