Re: Oracle Licensing on VMware

From: Igor Racic <igor.racic_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 09:34:17 +0200
Message-ID: <CAGjkCBbXC9b=VRPz6KSFejoiwEua0CzD3j=OGOZM6vLkA9aKDg_at_mail.gmail.com>

>> I believe licensing of Dev/Test environments is what killed the deal)
This one is a bit suspicious.
Some time ago I read somewhere, about independent company who helps optimize Oracle licences (before talking to Oracle, of course). I do not remember the company name, somebody will have better memory I hope.
But I think that could be helpful (if not too late...)

Regards,
Igor

2013/10/15 Paresh Yadav <yparesh_at_gmail.com>

> Thanks Jeremy and Hans.
> It is sad to see Oracle killing their own business. One of the mid size
> organization that I know of moved from Oracle to Postgres (with curtailed
> business functionality) as Oracle out priced themselves even after
> negotiations and steep discounts (I believe licensing of Dev/Test
> environments is what killed the deal) . I guess overall Oracle makes more
> money with this strategy so loosing few small customers hardly matters to
> them.
>
> Thanks
> Paresh
> 416-688-1003
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Hans Forbrich <fuzzy.graybeard_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > My rule of thumb is:
> >
> > If it can save the organization money, or if it can earn the
> > organization money, Oracle wants their piece of the action and will send
> > in the hounds to get it.
> >
> > If the 'non production servers' are there to help dev and/or test, they
> > are definitely in one of the above categories, because the alternative
> > would be to shut down prod to do the dev or test.
> >
> > Check http://www.oracle.com/pricing for more, but it basically depends
> > on the license terms you have negotiated with Oracle.
> >
> > Just my $0.02
> > /Hans
> >
> > On 15/10/2013 12:01 PM, Paresh Yadav wrote:
> > > May be this is a right time to ask.... Do we need to purchase license
> > for *non
> > > production servers* where Oracle database is installed? I have heard
> many
> > > answers (listed below) over last 15 years including Oracle reps and
> will
> > > love to get a definitive answers.
> > > - No license purchase is necessary for non prod instances
> > > - Yes, but only after the project goes live
> > > - unlimited non prod licenses are covered by becoming Oracle
> partner
> > > - Yes but never bother as Oracle never bothers about Auditing non
> > prod
> > > instances
> > > - Test instances are treated just like prod instances. Above
> > scenarios
> > > applies to Dev instances only
> > > - Probably there are few other answers that I can't remember
> > >
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