Re: Oracle Licensing on VMware

From: Paresh Yadav <yparesh_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:01:13 -0400
Message-ID: <CAPXEL0+wzEzsgaOPR1VTXT0Msb+BUeomDf5wqB=s2=7gL_5S3w_at_mail.gmail.com>

May be this is a right time to ask.... Do we need to purchase license for *non production servers* where Oracle database is installed? I have heard many answers (listed below) over last 15 years including Oracle reps and will love to get a definitive answers.

• No license purchase is necessary for non prod instances
• Yes, but only after the project goes live
• unlimited non prod licenses are covered by becoming Oracle partner
• Yes but never bother as Oracle never bothers about Auditing non prod instances
• Test instances are treated just like prod instances. Above scenarios applies to Dev instances only
• Probably there are few other answers that I can't remember

The Oracle database licensing doc is here in case http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/databaselicensing-070584.pdf it helps!

Thanks
Paresh
416-688-1003

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM, D'Hooge Freek <Freek.DHooge_at_uptime.be>wrote:

> Jeremy,
>
> I won't argue with you about how insane the reasoning is, but this is
> what Oracle LMS stated after a license review of a client.
> Trust me, I have battled with Oracle about this...
>
> But as stated before, the only valid source for license rules is Oracle
> LMS (and make sure you have it in writing).
>
> regards,
>
> --
> Freek D'Hooge
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> Oracle Database Administrator
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>
>
>
>
> On di, 2013-10-15 at 10:49 -0500, Jeremy Schneider wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:58 AM, D'Hooge Freek
> > <Freek.DHooge_at_uptime.be> wrote:
> > * you need to license all physical machines in the vcenter
> > cluster (DRS
> > rules are not a valid way to limit the number of physical
> > servers to be
> > licensed, regardless vmware states about this)
> >
> > The reasoning for the second is that, according to the
> > processor
> > definition, you install the Oracle software on all physical
> > servers in
> > the same vcenter cluster (yes, that is what they told me)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > IMHO, that's clearly incorrect from a technical perspective. Oracle's
> > software investment guide does discuss how having the binaries
> > installed on a standby server means the server must be licensed
> > (compare illustration 4 with illustration 6). But a VMware cluster is
> > illustration 4 and not illustration 6. It functions like HACMP, HP
> > Service Guard or Veritas which are all explicitly mentioned in this
> > category and which don't require licensing the failover server if you
> > meet the stated conditions. Now these requirements for getting out of
> > license costs are very strict: in addition to the 10-day limit, you
> > also are allowed to only have one "standby" node - if the cluster has
> > more than two nodes then all but one must be licensed. Honestly I
> > suspect that in 99% of cases, customers do need to license the entire
> > VMware cluster because their cluster doesn't meet the definition of a
> > failover cluster - so I'm not surprised this would be the usual answer
> > from LMS. Definitely need to read carefully and of course discuss
> > with Oracle.
> >
> >
> > -Jeremy
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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