Re: Fwd: Re: Intelligent Data Placement - IDP question regarding using this for different physical devices

From: Kevin Jernigan <kevin.jernigan_at_oracle.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:36:19 -0400
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No worries, I probably should have edited the comments I received, rather than wholesale cut-and-paste. The PM in question is probably referring to "inventing" the concept of IDP within the context of ASM...KJ
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On 8/15/13 9:36 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:

> Of course, after I pressed "Send", I noticed that I seemed to be
> attributing the cited comment to Mr. Jernigan himself, which of course
> is not the case, as he was generously passing on a comment from someone
> within the Oracle development organization. My sincere apologies if
> that impression was conveyed.
>
> Thanks so much for your contributions, Kevin!
>
>
> On 8/14/2013 10:22 PM, Kevin Jernigan wrote:
>> I invented the concept of IDP before SSD devices were common place. IDP does not cause
>> preferential allocation across different device classes. Consequential,
>> this scheme will not work...
> I find it a bit jarring to see the phrase "invented the concept" used in
> this context. Logical volume managers have included similar capabilties
> for decades, such as the AIX "mklv" command with its "-a" flag, by which
> allocation/placement preference can be specified (i.e. inner edge, outer
> edge, center, etc). This capability was old news when I was an AIX
> administrator in the early 1990s, and while of course the specifics of
> the Oracle ASM mechanism of IDP are different and more advanced, natural
> after 15-20 years of technological advance, it is one thing to build
> upon a concept, another thing to invent it.
>
> I had a great friend at Oracle Consulting back in the 1990s, Gene
> Fosnight, who used the following aphorism for his email signature,
> "Look, listen, and learn, for an original mistake is as rare as an
> original idea."
>
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