Re: 12c grid control
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:37:43 +1000
Message-ID: <51D15BF7.7060605_at_iinet.net.au>
On 30/06/2013 11:27 PM, Kellyn Pot'vin wrote:
> Hi Nuno,
> I am going to respond, but only because there is complete confusion on what product we are talking about here. Let's not confuse Enterprise Manager 12c with Database 12c - these aren't the same thing and I apologize if the 12c thing is difficult to distinguish in the product names.
> Enterprise manager 12c, (EM12c) has been out for over a year and a half.
Kellyn, what I find mystifying is you feel there is a need to explain to me what EM12c is and how long it's been out. Please note: Peter Sharman (is?) was the product manager for EM12c since it started as a product. Peter lives in Australia, where I also live. He talks often at the user group that I help run. I have attended three seminars on 12c in the last 24 months, one of them with Peter. One of the guys who works with me tried to install and work with GC12c, first release, for our new OEL-based group monitor. And you believe I don't know EXACTLY and PRECISELY what EM12c is and what it can do, now and in the last 12 months?
> It is supported by an 11g database for the OMS support and rest assured, it is stable and the
> cornerstone of the Enterprise Manager product line.
Really? So all those claiming it's only stable after 12.1.0.3 are what? Misguided? Let me clarify one thing for you: in my dictionary, "cornerstone"is not a synonym for "stable". Never was, never will be. Apart from inflamed minds of some marketeers. And NO, I am NOT calling you a "marketeer"! :-)
> It has nothing to do with Database 12c, (db12c) at this time, other than to monitor
> these new databases as we all play with the release and figure out the features.
> Will the OMS be built one day on db12c database? Sure, but none soon!
We are completely in agreement here. And guess which release of db I am NOT considering for production until 2015? It really is very simple. ;-)
-- Cheers Nuno Souto dbvision_at_iinet.net.au -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-lReceived on Mon Jul 01 2013 - 12:37:43 CEST