RE: the joy of version numbers
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 14:45:58 -0400
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After 11.2.0.2.0, (I think that's it), all updates will be self contained, (contain everything needed), so out of line patching becomes best practice.
So I've move forward, and as of yet have not ensured that in my version of the OFA will be easier for patching. There is a five digit oracle version in my new OFA -- because there is a new directory for each install/patch.
/orasoft/app/oracle/product/11.2.0.3.0/dbhome /orasoft/app/oracle/product/11.2.0.3.3/dbhome
I never had use for dbhome until someone, (I think Dunbar), uses it to distinguish between Standard edition and Enterprise edition... dbhome_se dbhome_ee for example.
The self cleanup of the diag can be configured. The app_server for EM 10g was ridiculous but I got it done -- OFA but not every txt went away, apache, webCache, on and on with each one doing it their own way. With persistence I got every one -- with over a year on the SR(s). Now we are going to go to 12c. The only thing constant is change.
On a high note: I like the external table idea! I have one standard on every database. I run a job (could be EM), but use my own and get all the alert info in one file, (if you want it all). The job pipes and filters out most of what I don't need to see). So 40 or 50 databases in one file gives you a glimpse of something new and exciting. I open it with VIM. (The alert logs start over each week helping out. I keep a month or two around for posterity).
Joel Patterson
Database Administrator
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> Oracle version numbers are fun, aren't they?
I've noticed that even Oracle does not understand them. According to the DBA Guide, Chapter 1, there is a known pattern that was intended to include the Oracle App Server group - but apparently neither the OAS nor the WebLogic Server groups read Database documentation so they created their own variants. And then the EM group decided to go on their own, somewhere in left field in which 'Releases' are what everyone else calls 'Patch Sets'. Oh well. Add to that the Marketing Brand (9i, 10g, 11g, 12c ...) which confuses everyone, and the consistency between brand and version (WebLogic Server 12c (12.1.1), WebLogic Server 11g (10.3.6) as on and we have a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth. I'm sure interns are not involved - it appears too deliberately disorganized to have been accomplished by novices unless perhaps over Tequila Parties ... At least they are using a 'registery' called the Oracle Inventory to hold a database of component versions that have been installed. Although that database is in XML !?!?? (Perhaps someone should write an External Table. Like Tom Kyte's External Table mapping on the Alert.log ...) /Hans -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l