Re: Losing out to SQL Server
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:22:46 -0800 (PST)
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Those with a support agreement with Oracle can avail ourselves of the quicklooks they do for free. One is to help the customer define requirements, the other is to help you design a solution to meet the requirements. Again, your Oracle sales rep can help you set these up. The points about SQL server raised below are valid. There's also the fail over comparisons. If you're looking for transparent fail over, don't bother looking at SQL Server. There are also scalability issues with SQL Server - about your only alternative is to invest in new hardware if the application or user base outgrows the server it's running on, so you need to make sure that consideration is taken into account in the plan for the move.
From: Øyvind Isene <oyvind.isene_at_gmail.com> To: wblanchard_at_oshkoshcorp.com
Cc: oracle-l <oracle-l_at_freelists.org> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Losing out to SQL Server
I can understand that, Oracle is not inexpensive. These are things to
consider:
* Make sure they have understood SQL Server licensing rules, they have
changed recently. If Linux is an alternative the Windows server license
must be included too.
* Check if you really need EE; SE1 and SE are still very advanced. If you
need DG, check out DbVisit Standby.
* You get discounts on Oracle licenses when buying hardware from them, with
the latest ODA you can start small (with few licenses) and use the
remaining CPUs for other stuff.
* Try to arrange a scaled up volume testing on SQL server and see if it
performs as expected.
* As already suggested, talk to an Oracle presale guy. They can be creative
at times.
On the other hand, if you learn SQL Server as well as Oracle you will
probably be very valued on the job market. Many of us (me included) hates
to start over again and learn an RDBMS that will always be second to Oracle
;-)
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:26 PM, <wblanchard_at_oshkoshcorp.com> wrote:
> So, I'm sure everyone on this list understands the costs involved in
> standing up an Oracle database (especially if you have to factor in EE,
> DR, DG, etc.). With the economy the way it is an money being a commodity
> in short supply, I find that I am losing EVERY new application to SQL
> Server. Granted there are times when SQL Server is a better fit and I
> have steered two applications to SQL Server because I felt it was a better
> fit; however, how do I reel in the ones that really should be on Oracle.
> Trying to sell a $1 million dollar solution that SQL Server can cover for
> a few hundred thousand is killing me.
>
> Thank you,
>
> WGB
>
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