Re: OMS and Repository Preferences
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:33:53 -0600
Message-ID: <4F887FA1.8000605_at_gmail.com>
Please recheck that: According to the Licensing manual at http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e10594/editions.htm#BABDJGGI Oracle Data Guard---Redo Apply
N
N
Y
Oracle Data Guard---SQL Apply
N
N
Y
Oracle Data Guard---Snapshot Standby
N
N
Y
Oracle Active Data Guard
N
N
Y
Extra cost option
Data Guard, both Physical and Logical Standby are INCLUDED in the license of the database (and have been as long as I know) AS LONG as the standby database itself is properly licensed.
IN other words, Data Guard is NOT a 'for fee option', but intrinsic to the database, BUT each host must be appropriately licensed to run the database.
Active Data Guard, on the other hand, is a separate for-fee option.
My question still stands: does the rider under heading "Infrastructure Repository Databases" (further down the page on the above link) also cover the standby database?
/Hans
On 13/04/2012 1:21 PM, Tim Hall wrote:
> It is my understanding that DG is only allowed as a paid option on a
> licensed EE database. If you want the OMR protected using DG you have
> to pay full whack for the EE and DG licenses.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tim...
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Hans Forbrich
> <fuzzy.graybeard_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> So my question is:
>>
>> If the license for the database for OMR is included in the product being
>> monitored, as long as no options (eg: RAC) are involved: is the Standby
>> database for OMR - covered by DG Broker& Observer - also included [aka
>> free]?
>>
>> If yes, then we have an opportunity to learn how to configure OMS,
>> and/or to learn how to use VIP under OMR.
>>
>> I love learning opportunities.
>>
>> /Hans
>>
>>
>> On 12/04/2012 9:36 AM, Kellyn Pot'vin wrote:
>>> Since without EM, we DBA's are often in the dark, I appreciate the proposal of RAC for the environment, but doesn't this kill the free licensing option that many companies take advantage of to keep costs down? I would prefer to use my EM monitoring and alert script vs. having to go to my manager and explain to him that I need more budget for licensing costs! Correct me if RAC is free for EM, but I see no documentation saying otherwise.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Kellyn Pot'Vin
>>> Senior Technical Consultant
>>> Enkitec
>>> DBAKevlar.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Tim Hall<tim_at_oracle-base.com>
>>> To: kellyn.potvin_at_ymail.com
>>> Cc: "Oracle- L_at_ Free Lists.org"<oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: OMS and Repository Preferences
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Take a look at this:
>>>
>>> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E24628_01/doc.121/e24473/ha_intro.htm#EMADM10659
>>>
>>>> From your description it sounds like you are only planning a level 1
>>> setup (1 repository instance and 1 OMS instance). If that is the case,
>>> I see very little benefit to having it on 2 machines, as opposed to 1.
>>> If either DB or OMS machine dies it's all gone anyway. Since the two
>>> servers in this setup provide no additional resilience, I would prefer
>>> a simpler solution of a single server myself.
>>>
>>> Of course, if the plan is to move to a more resilient solution in the
>>> future, it may alter my opinion somewhat.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Tim...
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Kellyn Pot'vin<kellyn.potvin_at_ymail.com> wrote:
>>>> I know it's common for many folks to separate their OMS from their repository for Enterprise Manager- I haven't been one to do this in the past due to, OK, just going to say it, flaky network connectivity in previous environments that would cause *false* communication alerts with the OMS components to/from the repository. I now have new clients, new systems to work on and at least two EM12c environments to build out in the near future.
>>>> So here's my question:
>>>> What is your preference when building an Enterprise Manager environment? Do you house the OMS and the repository on the same host or separately and I want to know WHY you build it one way or the other, not just "It just should be that way.. " :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Kellyn Pot'Vin
>>>> Senior Technical Consultant
>>>> Enkitec
>>>> DBAKevlar.com
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