RE: OMS and Repository Preferences

From: Peter Sharman <pete.sharman_at_oracle.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:07:23 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <74294a6a-fe46-4f8b-ae1a-6feec5ddbaa6_at_default>

RAC is not free, that's exactly the point Kellyn was making. If you want to use RAC under your EM repository, that's an add-on, paid option.

Pete

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From: John Hallas [mailto:John.Hallas_at_morrisonsplc.co.uk] Sent: Friday, 13 April 2012 6:37 AM
To: kellyn.potvin_at_ymail.com; tim_at_oracle-base.com Cc: Oracle- L_at_ Free Lists.org
Subject: RE: OMS and Repository Preferences

RAC free for OEM - new one on me (although we do have site licenses so have had no need to investigate to a great detail)

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From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kellyn Pot'vin Sent: 12 April 2012 16:37
To: tim_at_oracle-base.com
Cc: Oracle- L_at_ Free Lists.org
Subject: Re: OMS and Repository Preferences

Since without EM, we DBA's are often in the dark, I appreciate the proposal of RAC for the environment, but doesn't this kill the free licensing option that many companies take advantage of to keep costs down?  I would prefer to use my EM monitoring and alert script vs. having to go to my manager and explain to him that I need more budget for licensing costs!  Correct me if RAC is free for EM, but I see no documentation saying otherwise. Thanks!
 
Kellyn Pot'Vin
Senior Technical Consultant
Enkitec
DBAKevlar.com

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 From: Tim Hall <tim_at_oracle-base.com> To: kellyn.potvin_at_ymail.com
Cc: "Oracle- L_at_ Free Lists.org" <oracle-l_at_freelists.org> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: OMS and Repository Preferences  

Hi.

Take a look at this:

http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E24628_01/doc.121/e24473/ha_intro.htm#EMADM10659

From your description it sounds like you are only planning a level 1 setup (1 repository instance and 1 OMS instance). If that is the case, I see very little benefit to having it on 2 machines, as opposed to 1. If either DB or OMS machine dies it's all gone anyway. Since the two servers in this setup provide no additional resilience, I would prefer a simpler solution of a single server myself.

Of course, if the plan is to move to a more resilient solution in the future, it may alter my opinion somewhat.

Cheers

Tim...

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Kellyn Pot'vin <kellyn.potvin_at_ymail.com> wrote:
> I know it's common for many folks to separate their OMS from their repository for Enterprise Manager-  I haven't been one to do this in the past due to, OK, just going to say it, flaky network connectivity in previous environments that would cause *false* communication alerts with the OMS components to/from the repository.  I now have new clients, new systems to work on and at least two EM12c environments to build out in the near future.
> So here's my question:
> What is your preference when building an Enterprise Manager
> environment?  Do you house the OMS and the repository on the same host
> or separately and I want to know WHY you build it one way or the
> other, not just "It just should be that way.. " :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kellyn Pot'Vin
> Senior Technical Consultant
> Enkitec
> DBAKevlar.com
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