Re: System Statistics and Calibrate IO

From: Kellyn Pot'vin <kellyn.potvin_at_ymail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:47:00 -0800 (PST)
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Apologies, I did not clearly state the following: this database mart build is started with a duplicate from another database that has DIFFERENT disk, memory and CPU.  We run the system stats once the duplicate is finished and then I would also like, as part of the 11g project to calibrate the IO at this step.   We are heavily dependent upon parallel processing here.  There really isn't much of anything that runs without parallel. Again- The hardware that the mart resides on is completely different than the target database system it is duplicated from... Thanks!
 
Kellyn Pot'Vin
Sr. Database Administrator and Developer DBAKevlar.com

 From: Subodh Deshpande <deshpande.subodh_at_gmail.com> To: kellyn.potvin_at_ymail.com
Cc: "oracle-l_at_freelists.org" <oracle-l_at_freelists.org> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: System Statistics and Calibrate IO  

yes, I think its upgrade project then all the parameters such memory, cpu, hardware are not going to change then what may change is only I/O..

look at it from customer requirement..so if you at least have some minimum stat about previous I/O you can justify the performance after upgrade..and post actions taken if required..

if you keep all the stat it may help you for your own learning experience..and if you are habitual with upgrades then perhaps may not be required to gather the stats..just depending upon the performance you can take the actions if any are required...

thanks..subodh

On 3 December 2011 06:10, Greg Rahn <greg_at_structureddata.org> wrote:

I don't see a technical requirement to run either.  I have yet to use
>system stats on any warehouse workload, and calibrate is only necessary for
>11.2.0.2 auto DOP, and then I would just set the values manually - the same
>way the Exadata best practice guide recommends.
>On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Kellyn Pot'vin <kellyn.potvin_at_ymail.com>wrote:
>
>
>> I'm looking for some *extra* info before I pull my hair out on this one,
>> folks!
>> I'm managing and performing an 11g upgrade project and today, there was
>> concern raised about me adding the dbms_resource_manager.calibrate_io run
>> instead of gather_system_stats in a database build process. Over the last
>> couple years reading here and there, I had come to believe that
>> calibrate_IO was something of a replacement for gather_system_stats, but
>> after research today, I'm not so sure about that!
>>
>> I have the basics down and am quite comfortable with the technical specs
>> of the new calibrate IO feature, but still feel there may very well be some
>> great value to gathering system stats, (This is for a mart build, is run
>> once with a sufficient work load produced on the system at the initial
>> build time, never again for the life of the datamart...)
>>
>> Can someone tell me why I would want to run one over the other, run both
>> or where I'm missing some data here?
>>
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