RE: title
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:09:41 -0400
Message-ID: <6B3493ABEE194842A8EFC3FC3B23DE6A27A7D5064B_at_MSXMBCCR2.roswellpark.org>
See, the problem is that because we are a public benefits corporation, one of the only ways you can get ahead financially is with a title change. To answer some of the questions:
I do have 27 years of IT exp and 17 years of DBA exp so I'm only a new guy to this org. I have more years total than some of them.
I know the platforms better than them. They come to me with issues. And none are in a managerial role.
No ego. Just looking to be compensated fairly.
ciao,
Brian
From: alanbort_at_gmail.com [mailto:alanbort_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Guillermo Alan Bort Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:58 PM To: Zelli, Brian
Cc: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Re: title
Super Senior DBA?
Subject Matter Expert?
Database Master?
Lord of The Databases?
King of the Universe?
Batman?
now, seriously... the only reason I'd take a "title" is because they are giving me more money... if that's what you're after, then there's no need to formalize it with a title (which would piss off the rest of your team, specially if you are "the new guy")
I think of myself as a Sr. DBA and I don't have significant experience nor responsibility on the MS SQL Server, MySQL, Postgre and Informix databases, just the Oracle ones... On the other hand I feel confident that I can solve any issue that arises in any of the databases of which I am responsible (or at least how to open a SR with oracle and get it fixed), so why wouldn't I be thought of as a Senior DBA?
Furthermore, seniority doesn't necessarily have anything to do with responsibilty and "being in charge of a database" or even having access to them. I think of my manager as a Sr. DBA and he doesn't do any day-to-day tasks, and during an outage he's not activeley solving the issue but managing the rest of the people and channeling communication from the rest of the world to the dba (or dbas) activeley working on the problem. He does have extensive knowledge of Oracle database and we can hold conversations with a very deep technical understanding on both sides. He does have access to most databases but he might as well not have it and he'd still be a Sr. DBA in my eyes and he'd still be able to perform his role.
If it's an ego boost you are looking for, I'd suggest playing World of Warcraft... you'll get a ton of titles and get a general sense of accomplishment from it... plus, a shiny flying lion.
If it's not an ego boost, then we come back to pissing off the rest of your team, is it really worth it?
Now... do you actually know more about each individual RDBMS than each other DBA in his own field of expertise? If you don't, then why should your title be any higher than theirs? You could call yourself a Sr. MultiDBA... this title should go into the list!
Oh, and it's not what your title says, but what you do that defines your "ranking" (sorry Batman).
Finally, I'd like to add that this is not meant to offend you (in spite of the frequent use of sarcasm) but merely to provide a laugh to some, and the beginning of an idea... hopefully.
Sincerely
Alan, Batman DBA.
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Zelli, Brian <Brian.Zelli_at_roswellpark.org<mailto:Brian.Zelli_at_roswellpark.org>> wrote: I may be explaining this wrong so bear with me. We throw around the title of Senior DBA just because somebody says they want it and mgt doesn't really know what the title should imply. We have a few who just don't know the job or perform the same functions. I want to go to my management and do the same seeing as I have 24/7 support for every platform and every database we have around here. I am the only Sr. DBA that has significant exp in SQL server, Oracle, Sybase and MySQL. The others have exp in only 1 and have been lightly trained in the other but no working knowledge or responsibility. They only have the title because they have been here longer and mgt thought that since I was coming in as a Sr, they "needed" to be a Sr as well. We have one Sr. who doesn't have any system or dba rights on any db. So if I were to ask for a better title since we like throwing them around, what can a Sr. DBA get beyond the current title? And not management because I really don't wa nt to be a babysitter. Title suggestions????
ciao,
Brian
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