Re: ASM or not to ASM
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:57:15 +0000
I've only rarely administered Oracle on Windows and the last RAC database on Windows was 188.8.131.52 back in 2000 (I think it was still called "Parallel Server"), so I have *nothing* to offer you. :-)
My instinct would be to leave well enough alone, but perhaps others on the list can chime in.
From: Storey, Robert (DCSO) [mailto:RStorey_at_DCSO.nashville.org] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:41 AM
To: tim_at_evdbt.com, 'Oracle L'
Subject: RE: ASM or not to ASM
Sorry, forgot to give you my system setup. I'm moving from 9i 32bit to 11gr2 64 bit. Windows 2008 server. My sysadmin has already carved out a huge chunk of disk space for me and created my volumes. My limited understanding of ASM was that (at least from a windows environment) that you setup the physical disks, then created ASM. Once ASM was running, it took care of where it would store data, where files would live, etc. As the DBA you didn't deal with storage concerns other than balancing, and ensuring that you had enough space for expansion.________________________________From: Tim Gorman [mailto:tim_at_evdbt.com]Sent: Mon 7/11/2011 11:55 AMTo: Storey, Robert (DCSO); Oracle LSubject: Re: ASM or not to ASMRobert,My $0.02...The main thing that is happening is that stuff which used to "belong" in the realm of "root" and the Sys Admins are being moved under the realm of DBA. So, there is a huge political aspect to the adoption of ASM that often overshadows the technical aspect, and this political "shift of power" from Sys Admin to DBA can be more of an obstruction than any other aspect of ASM adoption. Not sure what things are like in your shop, but that is not a trivial concern.It would be inaccurate to consider ASM to be "extra overhead". Along with that shift of "power" from SysAdmin to DBA comes the shift in responsibility from "root" to "oracle" accounts. If you are dealing with LUNs, volume managers, and file-systems, then from a techical perspective using ASM is the exact equivalent. You still have LUNs, but instead of a volume manager and a file-system you have ASM. Very very similar, but running under "oracle" instead of "root". So you can see that the big shift is human perception and responsibilities amongst the humans -- the machine is still doing the same things.ASM is simpler to configure optimally for Oracle than all of the flavors of file-system out there. Maybe you're already comfortable with that, maybe not? Some folks constantly like to fiddle with FS block-size, with direct-I/O, wish they could use asynch-I/O, etc. With ASM, its part of enchilada from the start.Maybe you're using VxFS or some other file-system with licensing issues; this is one area that Oracle actually saves you a few bucks.Looking downstream, there are advantages with platform migration/rehosting that come with ASM; not sure if that's slamming down the turnpike toward you.Another big selling point with me personally is the ease by which database files can be moved safely and without downtime from one SAN to another using ASM; much easier than most other storage options. Run ALTER DISKGROUP ... ADD DISK ..., ALTER DISKGROUP ... DROP DISK ..., then ALTER DISKGROUP ... REBALANCE, and done.It's tough to answer with detail without knowing present configuration, but that's my seat-of-the-pants reaction to your question. If what you've got has worked well so far, then stick with it, but if you reflect on things and realize that you're trying to make the square peg of Oracle fit into the round hole of file-systems, then ASM can make life easier and remove one more variable to worry about from the whole performance optimization environment.Hope this helps!Thanks!-Tim -----Original Message----- From: Storey, Robert (DCSO) [mailto:RStorey_at_DCSO.nashville.org] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:30 AM To: 'Oracle L' Subject: ASM or not to ASM Going through a 11gR2 new features class. First half day is all about ASM and installing grid infrastructure for a standalone structure, My question is why would I, on my single server with a single instance, using a SAN for my storage, bother with ASM? Why do all of this overhead just for a single instance? -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l
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