RE: Just my opinion - the move of MOS to Flash is still a bunch of crap (let's turn this to a productive effort)

From: Mark W. Farnham <mwf_at_rsiz.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:29:09 -0500
Message-ID: <040e01cbd9b7$be488f60$3ad9ae20$_at_rsiz.com>



How about MIX? You can post ideas and suggestions there, and people can vote for your suggestions. If we organize a slug of individual enhancement or change requests and some decent percentage of this list votes for them the vote totals would be records for MIX. One important thing is to post the idea once and have it voted for a lot, not many similar postings with a split vote amongst different wordings.  

Unfortunately the biggest single problem with the Flash version is the unneeded, unwanted, and resource consumptive flashy graphics which contribute negatively to the experience in addition to making it slower. Sometimes much slower depending on your device and connection. And it is difficult to dice that complaint up more specifically than the general observation. I don’t know whether that tosses me into the “some did not. =)” group.  

But documenting any specific features available in the flash version (other than those eye popping graphical eye candy designs) that are missing from the non-flash version individually is a great idea. Likewise concrete example of specific changes. If MIX is not palatable, perhaps someone can make an alternative suggestion.  

Thanks Charles! And thanks Jared. Some rants are worthwhile.  

mwf  

From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Charles Schultz Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:06 AM
To: Oracle-L Freelists
Cc: jkstill_at_gmail.com
Subject: Re: Just my opinion - the move of MOS to Flash is still a bunch of crap  

I have been sitting on the sidelines and reading this, tempted to respond. I got to talking to someone at the manager level in Support who has also been looking at these. What is most helpful is to identify exactly what you want to change, and maybe even how to change it. Some of those on this thread did that. Some did not. =)  

I myself have had a number of suggestions that I have made known to various folks in the Support structure. And there are days I feel exactly like you do, Jared. I am glad you got that off your chest, but I would encourage us all to be specific about what we want - it makes it much easier for developers to deliver specifics. Not saying they will, but at least they cannot use the excuse of not knowing.  

Hmm... is anyone keeping track of changes that the user community would like to see? Since Oracle does not seem to believe in things like bugzilla, maybe a user community owned list of enhancements (both done and need to be done) would be appropriate.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 08:52, Jared Still <jkstill_at_gmail.com> wrote:

My apologies for such an unabashed public rant.  

I should clearly stay away from the keyboard at such times.  

IAC, it is pretty clear that most folks are STILL avoiding

flash MOS if at all possible.

Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com Home Page: http://jaredstill.com

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jared Still <jkstill_at_gmail.com> wrote:

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I am really sick and tired of this POS costing me time.

Waiting to see if it will work...

Restarting firefox when flash hangs...

It is just ridiculous.

I am going to use HTML only.

If it doesn't work in HTML, then it isn't necessary.

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Hmmm...  

I don't really feel all that much better.  

Maybe I will go find an old PC to smash...

Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com Home Page: http://jaredstill.com  

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Charles Schultz



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