Re: 11g R2 Feedback?

From: Kellyn Pedersen <>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:29:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Considering the features my company uses, there is no way I could get away with a SE install anyway...:)

Kellyn Pedersen
Multi-Platform DBA
I-Behavior Inc.

"Go away before I replace you with a very small and efficient shell script..."

  • On Thu, 10/22/09, Niall Litchfield <> wrote:

From: Niall Litchfield <> Subject: Re: 11g R2 Feedback?
To: "D'Hooge Freek" <> Cc: "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:06 AM

I must admit I've heard similar - and didn't believe a word of it - or rather that it would stand up. You can't, IMO,  publish a list of things that you can license in SE and then say that people that use only them are not correctly licensed. Especially if you publish security advice that tells people (correctly) not to install features they don't use.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:15 PM, D'Hooge Freek <> wrote:


During some licensing training I got from oracle, it was stated that the custom install is always an enterprise install. Even if you don't select any of the enterprise options.



Freek D'Hooge
Oracle Database Administrator
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From: [] On Behalf Of Niall Litchfield Sent: donderdag 22 oktober 2009 17:28

Subject: Re: 11g R2 Feedback?

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Martin Bach <> wrote: Hi group,

my experience with 11g is a mixed bag.

Installed at a customer site as a demo on T1000/Solaris 10 and ran into problem when I showed them how to apply a patchset ( the SE installation became EE with all features on. Wonder if the next release then phones home?

Oracle has a history of doing that - assuming you are checking via the banner - You also can't do a custom SE install on at least some versions, it then gets reported as EE via v$version. DBA_REGISTRY seems to be reliable though for installed features at least though I'd like it to list features and options (yes I know about v$option) so that people knew what they had installed. Still one windows patch supplied a debug dll for distributed transactions that then stopped TPMs working at all! 

Martin Bach
OCM 10g


Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA

Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA

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