Re: Speaking of New Features (named pairs of values)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:46:11 +1000
Message-ID: <77a615a70909102046i2d7f1em57062de2d17ffb96_at_mail.gmail.com>
Considering parameters for procedures can be done postional and named they(oracle or ansi) have definately gone down that route before and decided to keep/use both (thank god)
Jack
2009/9/11 chet justice <chet.justice_at_gmail.com>
> Mark's right (as to my thoughts), it would be an "in addition to" kind of
> thing.
>
> Funny, I never considered the INSERT INTO SELECT FROM...I suppose CTAS
> would be the same (one or the other) as well.
>
> Ultimately, I want to see if Oracle does take into consideration
> items/Ideas on Oracle Mix. I think it would be a great move for them,
> whether it is this idea or another, to utilize that (Mix) method of
> communication.
>
> This probably isn't the best audience though as there are one or two known
> fanatics in the crowd. Some ever Certifiable. :)
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Mark W. Farnham <mwf_at_rsiz.com> wrote:
>
>> without being either an advocate or against the syntax, I don’t think he
>> is suggesting eliminating any existing valid syntax.
>>
>> But even if he was, then
>>
>> insert into t select ( a => x, b => y) from r;
>>
>> would seem to meet the formalism.
>>
>> If you prefer this syntax for source code there really is no impediment to
>> hauling out something like yacc and writing it. You’ll just have to pass
>> over your “source” code before you shove it at a SQL parser.
>>
>> Heh, you could probably write it in PERL… and start using it in a few
>> days.
>>
>> mwf
>>
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>>
>> *From:* oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:
>> oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Moore
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:28 PM
>> *To:* oracle-l
>> *Subject:* Re: Speaking of New Features
>>
>> If it was as chet suggested, then how could you do
>>
>> insert into t (a,b) select x,y from r;
>>
>> It would mean you would need to have two valid syntaxes for the INSERT.
>>
>> 1.) insert into t(a,b) values ('a','b');
>> and
>> 2) insert into t (a => 'a', b=>'b');
>>
>> both would need to be valid. Not that that is a terrible thing but if you
>> are going to have both 'named' and 'positional' for INSERT, then you would
>> probably want both forms available for UPDATE as well.
>> Mike
>>
>
>
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